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Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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As someone who works in this space, the headline is a bit of a stretch. The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver (or zero?). The military contractor (Vantar/Maxar) in question basically admits so but just "reserves the right" to use the data which is the political battle line ala Claude and DoD. This is mostly an ideological battle.

It's not like there's a moral high ground about not collaborating with the military. Unless you want to advantage America's adversaries, namely China, Putin's Russia and Iran's current regime. There's always this implicit, sometimes explicit, "war bad" childish political philosophy in posts like this. In reality war is a given and you have to be prepared to have the upper hand.

"War is a given" if your foreign policies dictate that outcome. It's not something always unavoidable but it isn't inevitable either.

The United States is one pretty warmongerish nation by any account.

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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As someone who works in this space, the headline is a bit of a stretch. The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver (or zero?). The military contractor (Vantar/Maxar) in question basically admits so but just "reserves the right" to use the data which is the political battle line ala Claude and DoD. This is mostly an ideological battle.

> The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver.

Currently active theaters. And now there are detailed locations of our cities. We might not get killbots today but we will get pacificationbots.

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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> The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver (or zero?). But presumably the images/models at ground level can be used to train/improve the general performance of Vantor's aerial (satelite based) navigation system so it works better elsewhere?

well the article writes AS IF the whole intention was to: "get data for drone warfare" ...in 2021 (before the russian invasion...) but did we even EXPECT drone warfare to influence the war THIS MUCH back then? well not me -- I actually thought russia would beat the crap out of ukraine within a month (even after the failed spetsnaz attack on zelensky) the article's assumptions only makes sense IF some people had time…

Well, define "drone warfare"- the CIA and the Pentagon has been operating Predators and friends for a long while.

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well the article writes AS IF the whole intention was to: "get data for drone warfare" ...in 2021 (before the russian invasion...) but did we even EXPECT drone warfare to influence the war THIS MUCH back then? well not me -- I actually thought russia would beat the crap out of ukraine within a month (even after the failed spetsnaz attack on zelensky) the article's assumptions only makes sense IF some people had time…

Well, define "drone warfare"- the CIA and the Pentagon has been operating Predators and friends for a long while.

those predators and friends are really high-altitude drones, and for them these low-altitude (human) level pics don't give them any advantage

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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post #150

As someone who works in this space, the headline is a bit of a stretch. The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver (or zero?). The military contractor (Vantar/Maxar) in question basically admits so but just "reserves the right" to use the data which is the political battle line ala Claude and DoD. This is mostly an ideological battle.

It's not like there's a moral high ground about not collaborating with the military. Unless you want to advantage America's adversaries, namely China, Putin's Russia and Iran's current regime. There's always this implicit, sometimes explicit, "war bad" childish political philosophy in posts like this. In reality war is a given and you have to be prepared to have the upper hand.

War is bad. And our reality isn’t some unchanging truth. Our actions and choices, or apathy, help shape our reality.

It is not childish to aspire to be better.

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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As a Pokemon go player, I would say it isn't. There's even a Pokemon exclusive to the middle east region: sandstorm pattern Vivillion. Lots of players there.

"The Middle-east" isn't a war zone. Even the parts of the middle-east that are, don't have any drone deployments. Lebanon maybe? Reports are thin. Maxar is/was primarily a satellite data company, and to say Pokemon data would add any major value in any of today's active drone deployments with the level of Satellite coverage Maxar already has is a wide stretch. Moreover, ground forces in the area would need pretty hea…

> "The Middle-east" isn't a war zone.

According to Wikipedia, more than half of the Middle East countries are either belligerents or were otherwise attacked in the ongoing war.

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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post #150

As someone who works in this space, the headline is a bit of a stretch. The overlap in the locations of Pokemon Go Player data and any active Drone heavy theaters of war is a tiny sliver (or zero?). The military contractor (Vantar/Maxar) in question basically admits so but just "reserves the right" to use the data which is the political battle line ala Claude and DoD. This is mostly an ideological battle.

It's not like there's a moral high ground about not collaborating with the military. Unless you want to advantage America's adversaries, namely China, Putin's Russia and Iran's current regime. There's always this implicit, sometimes explicit, "war bad" childish political philosophy in posts like this. In reality war is a given and you have to be prepared to have the upper hand.

the EU has demonstrated for decades that by balancing trades, equality and human rights it can prevent conflicts from happening.

Seems to me that most of our friends in the balkans that have memory of the past wars are overall pretty happy about the current state of things, and there hasn't been wars to contend Alsace-Lorraine in 80 years, is it a record already?

War is very much not a given in the civilized world

Re: Pokémon Go Scans Trained the Navigation Tech for Military Drones

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, define "drone warfare"- the CIA and the Pentagon has been operating Predators and friends for a long while.

those predators and friends are really high-altitude drones, and for them these low-altitude (human) level pics don't give them any advantage

Very likely. I'm just saying, people in the CIA seeing where the tech might be going and hedging their bets is not that unlikely.
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