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Re: Siri AI

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Post by 0x1d7 »

Snoddas wrote: post #546
9dev wrote: post #530

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The vast majority of people never even asked for a personal assistant, because that isn’t something normal people have or do need in the first place. They aren’t so occupied/privileged/posh to need someone to do the trivial tasks of daily life for them. This whole venue of technology is an exercise in ivory tower construction completely disconnected from ordinary people.

I think you are wrong. They never asked for one becase they never imagined being able to afford one. The amount of administration organizing a normal household takes I suspect most would be glad to leave to someon/something they trust and that can be held accountable. Today that someone needs to be a person (imo). But who knows, a startup may be plotting accountable digital assistans as we speak.

I would want someone who could physically work in my house, performing the chores/daily tasks I don't want to.

I have zero use for AI. What's it going to do? Read the 3 emails about bills I get?

Certainly someone out there has a use for this functionality, but when you say "household admin tasks" the last thing I think about are /digital/ admin tasks.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by rafaelmn »

bandrami wrote: post #461
rafaelmn wrote: post #384

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>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

I'm too paranoid to ever want a home snitch device, so I'm not their target audience, but it always struck me that if it took even ten minutes to debug a problem like that it completely destroys a year's worth of time allegedly saved compared to just walking over to the room and hitting the switch.

It's not about time efficiency more about convince. It sounds trivial but sometimes it's really useful to be able to do things hands free/without having to move - worth spending the time to install/setup all of this once.

I'm in the middle of remodeling a new apartment and all my switches are smart. I won't even have physical switches for some fixtures like window rollers.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by rafaelmn »

conradfr wrote: post #487
rafaelmn wrote: post #384

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>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

I press a switch on the wall.

Good for you ?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by SecretDreams »

Schiendelman wrote: post #377
SecretDreams wrote: post #364

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On the initial prompt, it's okay. But it just keeps trying to talk after. Like, just answer my question and do not follow up unless I ask, please sir.

If you are logged in, you can tell it that's your preference and it will remember.

I've tried, but I'll try again. I'm not clear what "logged in" means, I guess? It's using my android auto from my phone. Everything is authed against my google account, including my Gemini, presumably. Is there a secret Gemini/AA I'm missing?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mr_toad »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

> As an AI I can absolutely guide you through the process of renting the car, but I can't physically access the web site or type in the details for you

It’s like they were trained on corpuses of box ticking material, like iso 9000 documentation, or security certifications. And now they know how to describe what they should be doing, but they never actually do anything.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by MattDamonSpace »

Danox wrote: post #456
MattDamonSpace wrote: post #188

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I just can’t imagine another computing device from a competitor company that 1) threatens the smartphone 2) apple couldn’t copy and mass produce at higher quality If there’s truly an existential threat to its device business, Copy Well

The company that will challenge Apple will be one that possesses the capability to develop both an operating system and hardware at a high level right now, who is this company? There is one company that may one day, but that company isn’t in the west and no, it isn’t Nvidia.

North Korea

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jen729w »

taneq wrote: post #544
jen729w wrote: post #388

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> Makes you wonder how much money Apple has poured into Siri over the years. Orders of magnitude less than the literal trillions that others have?

I’ve wondered for years if this is what’s happening. They saw the mad scramble and hype bubble when gpt3 was released, and decided to sit it out until LLM tech was a bit more mature and commoditised. Huge call if so, given that missing the bus on AGI (if AGI happened) is a universal existential risk, but it turned out to be the right one.

> a universal existential risk

I'm not sure it is, if your primary business is selling hardware. People are still going to need a 5" wide screen and battery in their pocket in order to do things.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by taneq »

jen729w wrote: post #727
taneq wrote: post #544

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I’ve wondered for years if this is what’s happening. They saw the mad scramble and hype bubble when gpt3 was released, and decided to sit it out until LLM tech was a bit more mature and commoditised. Huge call if so, given that missing the bus on AGI (if AGI happened) is a universal existential risk, but it turned out to be the right one.

> a universal existential risk I'm not sure it is, if your primary business is selling hardware. People are still going to need a 5" wide screen and battery in their pocket in order to do things.

AGI will either remove that need, or build its own factory to supply better phones cheaper than we could.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by s3p »

SebastianKra wrote: post #495
s3p wrote: post #283

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Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

"Siri, lights out everywhere" - "okay, which room". "Siri, start a stopwatch" - runs the App "Stopwatch" without starting it Such errors happen maybe 50% of the time. You can never just ask something without double-checking afterwards.

Ah, for me my key word is "turn off all my lights" and it works

Re: Siri AI

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Post by s3p »

zeratax wrote: post #513
bandrami wrote: post #461

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I'm too paranoid to ever want a home snitch device, so I'm not their target audience, but it always struck me that if it took even ten minutes to debug a problem like that it completely destroys a year's worth of time allegedly saved compared to just walking over to the room and hitting the switch.

true, but also there is no debugging, right? it's apple's software either it works or it doesn't. (i guess other than connectivity issues) idk if most of my home assistant automations have actually saved me time since i def had to debug them, but the level of satisfaction when they do work is def worth it for me, since i created (and debugged) them haha

Yeah this is true however i will use the manufacturer app if Siri or the Home app doesn't work.
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