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Re: Siri AI

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Post by brookst »

kaibee wrote: post #353
brookst wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, me, me! I spent a few years being responsible for a significant bit of DMA review and CYA and responses to regulators. I’ve read all of it, multiple times, and been grilled by EU regulators (vicariously, via corporate lawyers). It still boils down to general guidelines that it’s impossible to know if you’re violating before the fact, and they will not even approve/reject proposals in advance. It’s basically “go r…

> It still boils down to general guidelines that it’s impossible to know if you’re violating before the fact, and they will not even approve/reject proposals in advance. It’s basically “go read the act yourself, and ship what you think is compliant, and you’ll know whether we interpret the words the same way by whether or not we fine you.” Companies want to know exactly where the line is so they can figure out how to…

So you’d be cool with speed limit signs that said “hey, don’t go too fast” and no specific limits? And the cops decide who to pull over on vibes, reputation, mood?

I’m more of a rule of law person myself. If there’s a law that must not be broken, and breaking it results in penalties, it seems insane to me to not specify it in advance.

Sure, big tech is largely evil. Arrest ‘em, find them, IDGAF.

But pretending that DMA and related regulations provide enough information to ensure compliance is willfully ignorant. The regulations are designed to allow selective enforcemen.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Schiendelman »

sakesun wrote: post #282

Microsoft cannot compete in browser race and has to adopt Chromium. Apple cannot compete in AI and has to adopt Gemini Google is a really amazing company.

In both cases, Google built a commodity that doesn't necessarily generate revenue for them. I don't think they're doing very well in this case.

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Post by Schiendelman »

alex_young wrote: post #369

Does this not work with HomePod? How is an AI voice assistant not compatible with the smart speaker?

That old hardware can't handle it. HomePod, the Apple TV, and the watch will all get updates in the next few months to streamline this.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by rafaelmn »

s3p wrote: post #283
Ecstatify wrote: post #155

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It’s the same broken promise every year. All I want is for Siri to set an alarm and open my blinds. That’s enough for me. Makes you wonder how much money Apple has poured into Siri over the years.

Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom

100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this.

Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by umpalumpaaa »

Danox wrote: post #197
aurareturn wrote: post #51

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This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own. Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. Quite frankly, I'm kind of e…

OpenAI is not a hardware company or an OS company and they hardly have the money to pay the real cost in the long-term, if Amazon, Meta, Google and the Linux crowd are having trouble, OpenAI is not gonna get the job done.

They would start on a green field though… which makes it pretty efficient initially

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Schiendelman »

yesitcan wrote: post #296

> Aga sent you a message about Calanthea, a plant. > Aga: have you heard of Calanthea? It’s a plant. Really groundbreaking use of AI!

That's not what that is showing, it isn't reading a text you just got. It's you asking about the plant she told you about, it finding that text message, summarizing, and also proving with the text that it's accurate.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by AuthAuth »

Danox wrote: post #246
AuthAuth wrote: post #174

Its wild to me that people use those apple emoji people. It looks so bad.

That’s your clue that it’s AI, or do you want it so realistic that you don’t know the difference?

Sorry, i've not had an apply device in ages. Is the AI using the emoji icon or are people using it? I assumed people were using it.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jen729w »

Ecstatify wrote: post #155
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #152

I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.

It’s the same broken promise every year. All I want is for Siri to set an alarm and open my blinds. That’s enough for me. Makes you wonder how much money Apple has poured into Siri over the years.

> Makes you wonder how much money Apple has poured into Siri over the years.

Orders of magnitude less than the literal trillions that others have?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by fwip »

xp84 wrote: post #74
seaal wrote: post #13

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle. Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

I'll believe this when pigs fly. There's a 0% chance it will work. Most websites I've seen have one or all of: * Force you to use email or SMS as a "second factor" to unlock changing password even if you know the old password * A stupid idea of password complexity usually requiring one of a finite set of 5-8 "special characters" which is often only revealed after you've chosen a password that doesn't have them. Or in…

Limiting the character set is done to reduce the frequency of "can't enter my password" support calls, not to increase security directly. Same with the maximum password length.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by musictubes »

himata4113 wrote: post #154

I read through the entire DMA rant that apple has here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de... This feels like it could be solved with a list of permissions that the user has to turn on when using 3rd party AI. Apple already: 1) requires developers to submit ID to publish an app on the appstore (at least I had to after ~1000 downloads to be able to publish an update) 2) has strong kernel enfo…

Siri AI is not just a chatbot. There are deep hooks throughout the entire OS and across third party applications. Siri AI has been given wide access to the user's semantic index which will encompass just about everything on the device. Also remember that it isn't just the Apple user's privacy at stake. Any substitute will also have access to any interaction with other people. Apple is at least claiming to not keep any data people use with Siri AI, will Google, Anthropic, Open AI, etc. pinky swear they won't build a profile on me because a friend of mine chose their AI over Apple's?

I will wait and see what people find out about it before passing judgement. It's quite possible that it isn't possible to have an API to use other companies' AI instead of Siri AI. Are there any equivalent API hooks on Android?

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