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Re: Siri AI

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

officeplant wrote: post #151
aurareturn wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own. Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. Quite frankly, I'm kind of e…

>Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. I was working in cellphone sales at the time and I can tell you no one wanted that phone back then even when Facebook was massive. An easy to hit facebook button was not a value add anyone was begging to exist. Although with…

I think I want a physical AI device.

I want an AI assistant that I can use truly hands free. I keep my phone in my jacket when I'm riding my motorcycle. I want to be able to start, stop, adjust, and check details in route guidance. I want to be able to ask what the weather is like ahead on my route. I want to be able to ask it to start looking for a sensible place for me to stop for fuel and/or food without making me do a big detour.

Actually I would also quite like better driving directions, since I can't look at the directions on a screen.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by dd8601fn »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #212
dd8601fn wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It IS regulatory. The EU wants “anything Apple AI can do you have to let other AI providers do with equal access”. Which is fucking stupid, and Apple will never, ever throw open the gates to something so dangerously braindead. Their entire reputation depends on it. And China is kinda self-explanatory.

Yeah I hate freedom too.

You already have it. If you’re a fan of the “A loaded gun in every crib!” style of “freedom”, go buy something that isn’t an iPhone.

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Post by Danox »

gilbetron wrote: post #77

I don't care much about Siri, and not a lot about Apple (other than as an investment), but Apple is generally really good about putting out polished tech, and so I'm curious if Siri AI will be up to their usual standards, because if so, it represents a significant usage of AI that has solved hallucination issues. But that's a big If!

The big if is does it work on device without phoning home? For example, Google or Meta as a Ad/data collection company wants to phone home for everything because they want to collect data on you, what will this Apple solution do?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mattmaroon »

I switched from android to iOS 7 years ago and I’ve actually been debating going back just because of how bad iOS is at AI. And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis. And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare.

Siri seems to rarely get better and sometimes actually get worse.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Danox »

AuthAuth wrote: post #174

Its wild to me that people use those apple emoji people. It looks so bad.

That’s your clue that it’s AI, or do you want it so realistic that you don’t know the difference?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Huppie »

e28eta wrote: post #202
vages wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s your source for this? Opening up an API does not mean that everything on the phone is accessible to anybody.

They’re actively asking developers to index all the content in their apps, to provide Personal Context that Siri can use for user requests. And to create/index the actions available in the app. So, where developers comply, all of that content is now accessible to those alternative implementations. It’s not full read/write of the phone, and it’d exclude obvious secrets like passwords, but it is quite far reaching acce…

We may have a different view of what 'giving access' means in this context.

The way I see it: If a user willingly (1) installs another AI app like deepseek and (2) willingly gives it access to 'full phone and app data' with a warning screen or setting of whatever that seems... like a good thing?

I may not agree with those users that it's worthwhile providing their full private data to [some AI startup X] or [Some Chinese or US AI company that will hover up as much for their own use] but if the EU forces Apple to provide this as an option, that sounds good to me.

The whole point of the regulation is that the data on the device is _the user's_ data and if Apple can have its AI services work with the user's data, competitors should be able to do the same.

From my (admittedly European) perspective it looks like Apple is just throwing a tantrum here.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Danox »

amelius wrote: post #50
reconnecting wrote: post #5

Amazing how this time Apple found the `sweet spot` to release Siri AI when the letter combination A and I has fed up literally everyone.

Amazing how someone again finds a meaningless thing Apple does better than the rest then blows it out of proportions. Makes you wonder if they are on Apple's PR team.

So you noticed the five ecosystems being shown working together, not perfectly but better than everyone else.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by oofbey »

dwroberts wrote: post #222
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #152

I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.

Requiring at least an iPhone 15 Pro also seems like a mistake, unless it’s for actual hardware reasons. The 15 is only 3 years old, this requirement cuts off a lot of potential users I think

It’s definitely for hardware reasons. They have been aggressively improving the vector math capabilities in their chips, but as anybody who has tried to run a local LLM will tell you, newer hardware works better and you’re always limited in what you can do.
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