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1Password has been able to do this for five+ years. Frankly, it doesn't even really need agentic AI, although a talented team could probably make it perform better with agentic AI. I don't really believe in Apple being that quality team.
I mean every api/app/website has a different way to do this. If there was a standardized api that everyone could conform to to allow this automation I would be all for it. I assume 1p does this by writing custom code/rules for dealing with the most popular sites out there and then erroring out for anything else. AI could potentially help solve those unpopular site/app/whatever edgecase.
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#142all the limitations of on-device with none of the benefits, it seems? they gotta get SOMETHING out there and soon but idk, i would probably feel safer running a chinese model through a 3P iOS app shell vs. trusting Geminiri to not snitch if i cared about the sanctity of my personal information.
> all the limitations of on-device with none of the benefits, it seems? What do you mean?
i think i just mean if they are using google models, then i believe every query is going to google no matter what apple claims about "keeping it local." whether google does anything with it, separate question i guess, but i imagine it will ALSO be slow to simulate the protection apple is selling. and sure, it's a catty comment, i'll own that. but that is my read on the announcements and demonstrations.
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#143The only thing I want to know about this new Siri is how to turn it entirely off.
I agree, I am kinda disappointed by how much AI there is in this update, I was hoping for something different and exciting.
I think it's important to note what they didn't talk about. They briefly scrolled a long list of performance improvements and mentioned a few. Personally, I am very hopeful that the fact that they only talked about these high level AI features means the other engineers got to spend time focusing on performance and quality.
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#144The demo Mike Rockwell gave at WWDC was interesting. He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone. I hope this is the direction Apple is going to continue in. Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.
Will it change iOS Settings for me that are hard to find by me just describing what I want? Or things like: delete every app I haven’t used in 6 months?
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> do they have to let Anthropic and Deepseek run their models on it too? provided it gets big enough, yes. the EU's position roughly is "if this hurts an entire market just to benefit you, and lots of people use / rely on it, then you gotta allow it"
Why can't Anthropic or Deepseek take the big risk to develop their own phone? It doesn't seem right that they can simply use EU laws to hop on the ride for free without taking the same risks.
the EU feels like this falls under monopolistic practices, which it has deemed illegal. the buck stops with the politicians - there's no reason other than "the EU thinks it's bad for the economy and should thus not be allowed"
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In the EU case, Apple weaponizes people's ignorance about regulation. Apple pretends that the features everyone else has been shipping left and right somehow need extra paperwork and special approvals, because (…checks notes…) pro-privacy EU laws let zero-privacy competitors sail through, but block implementations that offer more privacy!? What's really happening is Apple unilaterally withholding features while makin…
This isn't really true. AI laws in the EU mandate that Apple give full access to everythign on the device to third parties. It's legit to be skeptical on the privacy front, but giving deepseek access to my entire phone. Or the TrumpAI at some point in a dystopian future seems... not great.
What’s your source for this?
Opening up an API does not mean that everything on the phone is accessible to anybody.
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#148The screenshot about pho is funny to me. Bean sprouts are not a good source of fiber. Noodles are not especially healthy. The broth base is not fish sauce, nor is fish sauce where broth gets most of its sodium. Slop city!
Seriously - that was bizarre. Why would they not choose a healthier meal or something more unknown?
Re: Siri AI
#149This is disappointing. I had hoped when Apple revisited AI that they would lean into agents more and give us some sort of agent interface between the phone and a model running locally on your Mac at home. More niche for sure, but much more powerful. Instead we're getting more generic AI tie-ins to apps and "suggestions".
Seriously - this would be a major cool thing to actually use AI for. Run some local AI basic stuff on phone and have it securely connect to your own home device for more advanced tasks or control your home agents. Could even reduce their own need to host cloud AI compute
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#150This whole "coming this fall", "later this year", it's annoying. I miss the days when Steve Jobs used to say "and it's available right now, you can demo it in the hall outside, we're going ot make a billion dollars by tonight."
To be fair this is the conference for developers - not the general public