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Re: Siri AI

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Post by KawaiiCyborg »

aurareturn wrote: post #124
merlindru wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> do they have to let Anthropic and Deepseek run their models on it too? provided it gets big enough, yes. the EU's position roughly is "if this hurts an entire market just to benefit you, and lots of people use / rely on it, then you gotta allow it"

Why can't Anthropic or Deepseek take the big risk to develop their own phone? It doesn't seem right that they can simply use EU laws to hop on the ride for free without taking the same risks.

As a consumer it also doesn't seem right that Apple can just use all their private APIs that no other company is allowed to use to tell me what I can and can't use on my phone. If I want Anthropic to have the same level of access that Apple grants itself on _my_ phone, I should be able to do so.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by OJFord »

merlindru wrote: post #111
wxw wrote: post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

Rest assured when they do have it figured out, we'll learn how they invented LLMs and AI chatbots.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by ForOldHack »

I was at Best Buy in the Apple section, and I asked its AI "What is the best value in four year old MacBook pros." It pointed me directly at an over-under washer dryer for $3400. Quite obviously, it was trained, like a drooling puppy by Madison Ave.

Wait... don't tell me... there is an App for that.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by InTheArena »

pornel wrote: post #123
nozzlegear wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the presenters said they're working with regulators in China and the EU to make it available eventually.

In the EU case, Apple weaponizes people's ignorance about regulation. Apple pretends that the features everyone else has been shipping left and right somehow need extra paperwork and special approvals, because (…checks notes…) pro-privacy EU laws let zero-privacy competitors sail through, but block implementations that offer more privacy!? What's really happening is Apple unilaterally withholding features while makin…

This isn't really true. AI laws in the EU mandate that Apple give full access to everythign on the device to third parties.

It's legit to be skeptical on the privacy front, but giving deepseek access to my entire phone. Or the TrumpAI at some point in a dystopian future seems... not great.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by [deleted] »

akmarinov wrote: post #44

None for the EU Is it available in China at least or is this another “50% of the userbase gets nothing new in the OS update” year? Edit: https://x.com/wongmjane/status/2064052590992916840?s=46 Lol

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Re: Siri AI

#136

Post by nixpulvis »

umpalumpaaa wrote: post #93
nixpulvis wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

1Password gives you access to previous passwords you had for that reason. Unfortunately not for other fields like email, notes etc… IMHO the perfect password app could just keep all previous versions of any field until the user deletes the history.

I'm (slowly) working on a version controlled local-first password manager for exactly this reason.

Re: Siri AI

#137

Post by nixpulvis »

lxgr wrote: post #92
nixpulvis wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

Does it at least store the old password for a while in some archive, like most competitors do?

Not at all.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by ramses0 »

umpalumpaaa wrote: post #93
nixpulvis wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

1Password gives you access to previous passwords you had for that reason. Unfortunately not for other fields like email, notes etc… IMHO the perfect password app could just keep all previous versions of any field until the user deletes the history.

https://www.passwordstore.org/

git + somesite.com.gpg

https://github.com/FiloSottile/passage (or: forked using AGE instead of GPG)

Re: Siri AI

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Post by nozzlegear »

pornel wrote: post #123
nozzlegear wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the presenters said they're working with regulators in China and the EU to make it available eventually.

In the EU case, Apple weaponizes people's ignorance about regulation. Apple pretends that the features everyone else has been shipping left and right somehow need extra paperwork and special approvals, because (…checks notes…) pro-privacy EU laws let zero-privacy competitors sail through, but block implementations that offer more privacy!? What's really happening is Apple unilaterally withholding features while makin…

I don't think it's unfair to say that the EU scrutinizes Apple (and a few other megacorps) a great deal more than most other companies. Some zero-privacy competitors might be sailing by right now simply because they aren't already caught up in the EU's red tape. Which isn't to say Apple doesn't also wield that red tape as their own bargaining chip, like you said.
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