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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by _-_-__-_-_- »

xnorswap wrote: post #48
cubefox wrote: post #43

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Related story: I recently watched a new video by a well-known YouTuber whom I was subscribed to for years. Something was off with the video: the script sounded like LLM slop. It sounded as if the author provided some bullet points on the main content of the script, and then let the LLM "expand" on it, with its typical, overly verbose, mode-collapsed LLM style. Then the YouTuber seems to have added some light edits to…

I had something similar happen where someone linked a blog article, I thought it sounded like slop, especially since they were posting 2-3 articles a day, but I wasn't sure so I checked their back catalogue. I then saw they've always written like that, and always posted 2-3 articles a day, so I figured they're prolific and LLMs copied their style. Then I read their first post again, and realised I should check the wa…

I get the feeling lots of blogs that are making advertising money are incentivized to do this: the most SEO buzzwords, the most "clinical" language, the most adjectives... I get that "this isn't right" feeling often now and I usually just close the browser and do something else.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by elzbardico »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #50
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

Cloud document best use case is document sharing for online collaboration, backup is a side effect, and frankly, as backup solution it is far from ideal.

Frankly, the best configuration is NOT installing OneDrive on user machines, actually disallow users to install it and let them share files from office 365 itself when they actually want to share those files. And then, have a proper network backup solution.

Make

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by eks391 »

password4321 wrote: post #35
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

Downloads folder to the rescue, hallelujah!

I have almost exclusively used the downloads folder since a late teen, because I realized it was the only place where I could trust microslop to not mess with my stuff.

Now I mostly use my self hosted cloud, but I do still have all of my short term things in downloads that don't need a form of backup

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by expedition32 »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #53
pezgrande wrote: post #46

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I'd guess it is more about making companies paying more and higher subs than training data.

Standard sub gives 1TB per user. Laptop drives are still 256 or 512GB in office work. No real need to pay for "higher subs"

It's about pushing subs in the first place. Normal people don't need it they can save stuff to their HD/SSD like they've been doing for the last 30 years.

But here comes Microsoft enabling OneDrive by default. How many tech illiterate folks have been pushed into paying for 365? Fuck MS.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by reddalo »

rcxdude wrote: post #87
al_borland wrote: post #65

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I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

It is irritating how Microsoft markets onedrive as a backup solution, because then people think 'oh, we have onedrive, why do we need another backup solution?', when onedrive is so unsuited to being the working copy of so many different kinds of data.

Also, it's not even a backup. If your files are only on OneDrive (which is the default "storage save" setting), good luck recovering them if they break into your account.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by g8oz »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #50
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

The failure modes of OneDrive outweigh the wins for many individual users.

It may be good enough in the aggregate from the perspective of IT admins.

No catastrophic failures, just a steady drip of confusion, friction, frustration and lost productivity for the users.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by reddalo »

amarcheschi wrote: post #47
PxldLtd wrote: post #26

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The whole thing is a cobbled together bodge over SharePoint as a backend. I wouldn't ever trust my company data with that dogwater product. Back when I had to work with it I found a bug that could cause folders to become un-synced without you realising, meaning changes would not be tracked and cause merge-conflicts when it was fixed. Managed to use our Gold partner tickets to raise the issue with the product team, th…

The university I attend uses SharePoint, classroom and moodle for various courses. SharePoint is by far the worst piece of software I've ever used. Like, there's no mental model to be done, not intuitive, not working, files disappear from time to time, and I could go on for hours

Moodle is also pretty garbage-y if I may say so.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by eks391 »

SirFatty wrote: post #75
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #51

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You are conflating private OneDrive with enterprise Office 365 Sharepoint based solution. Also that came out 10-13 years ago... way before AI. Why are people on this site such midwits?

I guess because the general hatred of Microsoft interferes with people's ability to think logically.

> hatred of Microsoft interferes with people's ability to think logically

100%. I fall in the 'I hate MS (and Apple, and Google, and...)' crowd myself. I lose brain cells every time I have to use MS products, so I definitely make nonlogical statements about these companies sometimes. I admit that my biasies are strong and one can't fully trust my opinion when I talk about these companies. But I do try to lace mostly truth, even if I exaggerate.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by quietbritishjim »

hparadiz wrote: post #92
Double_a_92 wrote: post #59

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I'm also unsure what they wanted Microsoft to do. Just store data that apparently doesn't belong to anyone anymore forever?

OneDrive turns itself on after an update so what you think is local data can easily become cloud data. Then while you're not paying attention to a long running system they quietly delete it. Then folks like you come out of the woodwork to defend them. It's hilarious.

What system would still be storing this locally long after the user has left the company?

The second half of your comment is bordering on a personal attack and not very helpful.

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