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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by afavour »

zx8080 wrote: post #101

It's so surprising that despute so many screams "China" in western media in the last 15 years, it happens in the west, but in China it's free to use any OS without any negative consequences. Why? What's going on?

China has a whole other level of control going on. You’re free to use any mobile OS you want because they’re able to monitoring every internet connection, see what you’re downloading and block any and all content they deem unsuitable with no recourse. They can also arrest you and move you to a labor camp with little recourse.

I’m not defending the UK police’s actions here but “it’s just as bad as China!” is a refrain you see often that rarely adds up.

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Post by khriss »

antiloper wrote: post #31

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

This is the real endgame, and my biggest fear of the war on privacy. That in the future, even trying to assert your right to privacy will be grounds for suspicion.

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Post by red_admiral »

Cider9986 wrote: post #36
antiloper wrote: post #31

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

There are a lot of media reports that if ICE don't like your face, they can be a bit ... cavalier ... about citizen's rights.

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Post by jadamson »

croes wrote: post #85
userbinator wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two words: Henry Nowak.

Two words: Cherry picking In could say Jean Charles de Menezes And know?

Jean Charles de Menezes was killed because he was misidentified as an active terror threat two weeks after the 7/7 London bombings. The officer who killed him was ordered not to allow him on the tube. Ironically, that order was given by Cressida Dick, who went on to set diversity targets that led to [1]. Quoting the Wikipedia summary:

> In January 2026, a Met Police review revealed that in an attempt to meet the diversity targets set by Dick, senior figures in the force had allowed recruitment standards to fall. More than 100 applicants who initially failed vetting procedures were later allowed to join after their cases were referred to a special panel set up to scrutinise rejected applications from ethnic minority candidates. Several of these went on to commit criminal offences or misconduct, including violence, sex attacks and drug use.

[1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/08/met-hired-child-...

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Post by pyrale »

rvnx wrote: post #234
IshKebab wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not practical in many cases. I'm starting a new job soon and have to visit the US. No way am I saying no to that (way too good a job). I'll probably just buy a decoy phone for the border.

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> Be respectful of the tradition, culture and laws of the local country that you visit and you will be fine.

> It's not your role to decide or interfere in the politics of other countries where you are not a permanent resident. Think of it like you being a guest.

I will plead Poe's law here.

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Post by somewhatgoated »

trumpdong wrote: post #150
harvey9 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sites like TPB don't try to verify your age.

TPB is the worst piracy site now by the way. It's full of fake uploads should never be used. There are many others with better curation.

I hear that often but I have yet to find any issues with it.

Maybe I’m too niche or not niche enough to run into issues. I also never download software from any site like this so maybe that’s it.

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

sph wrote: post #173
asdfsa32 wrote: post #54

A new age of piracy is ahead of us. When they come crying about "revenue", these days will be remembered.

Let's not call it piracy, please, it makes us sound like thieves. It's resistance against mass surveillance and a State that's grown cancerous. It's any citizen's duty, really.

It is dirtier to pay for big tech services than it is to infringe copyright.

Ironically, the big AI companies have scaled copyright infringement and appear to be profiting from it. So, pretty much: "meat's back on the menu boys".

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Post by dijit »

picofarad wrote: post #268
dijit wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thought the culture was “free speech” if you’re denied at the border for expressing speech online at some historic point (non-violent) then how can “respecting the culture” work? When I am in Saudi Arabia, I don’t wear shorts out of respect for their culture; but they don’t go through my instagram looking for pictures of me in shorts.

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Got it. Opinions are wrong if we have them, but you should be embraced with open arms if you have them about our country.

https://dailycaller.com/2026/06/05/jd-vance-henry-nowak-kirp...

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Post by The_President »

jiin wrote: post #9
Lucasoato wrote: post #6

A friend of mine told me that Yoti is used as an age verification system in so many porn websites. That’s such an issue, this information should never be owned by private companies.

Or you could just choose not to use pornography. Then you don't have to verify your age to these websites. I get that some people have a behavioural addiction to this harmful content but perhaps the age verification is an opportunity to step back and reconsider.

Another good reason to not use it is the risk of having illegal material downloaded from a server hosted internationally.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by hparadiz »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #266
hparadiz wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people on HN throw these stats out comparing poor people to poor people? We are all tech workers on HN. I'm not living in Alabama. When I compare my living situation I'm comparing my premium healthcare in Los Angeles to whatever the fuck you guys are doing. Pretty much all those stats are irrelevant. Seriously 62k? Try 3.5 times that and then you're in the ballpark. My healthcare expenses for the past few year…

To quote – I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people.

California offers basically free healthcare to those with low income.
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