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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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It's so surprising that despute so many screams "China" in western media in the last 15 years, it happens in the west, but in China it's free to use any OS without any negative consequences. Why? What's going on?

Because it's never been as simple as 'West good, China bad.'

That line of propaganda pushed by the US government worked well for the better part of a century, not any more.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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> Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. This is precisely the reason why I don't want to visit the US at the moment. The USA immigration officers can ask me to forfeit my phone's password and look at all my photos, documents, messages, call logs etc, WITHOUT SUSPICION. Some of that data can even stay on their servers for decades, and who knows if i…

Indeed, but the UK is in many ways words. At the least in the USA, often the constitution is upheld (give or take); in the UK you often don't even have such fundamental rights. The UK at present fits more to Russia than, e. g. European countries.

UK has (for now) the Human Rights Act and is a (for now) subject to the jurisdiction of (by being a founding member of) the European Court of Human Rights.

Which is not to excuse the errors, but to put it in context: it is a European country… albeit just like Turkey and Azerbaijan.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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A new age of piracy is ahead of us. When they come crying about "revenue", these days will be remembered.

Let's not call it piracy, please, it makes us sound like thieves.

It's resistance against mass surveillance and a State that's grown cancerous. It's any citizen's duty, really.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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A new age of piracy is ahead of us. When they come crying about "revenue", these days will be remembered.

What do you mean?

As the age verification and the dodgy businesses around them become more widespread, people will find the friction and risk of paying for "legitimate" access on par with pirating, and to boot, the later doesn't cost money.

Remember, people use these services largely for convince more than qualms with paying for multinationals. So once they create friction, off we go to the bays again in large masses.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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post #112

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What good is a piece of paper? I have nice toilet paper. It doesn't make me safer when visiting the US.

The entire point of a constitution is that, unlike toilet paper, it can be enforced by the courts.

In theory, unless the supreme court is bought and paid for and decrees things like "immunity for official business".

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Me too. I’m going to wait a few more years before I visit again. I‘m also careful with what I say online. US CBP tracks what people post online, and has been known to deny entry to people for being critical critical of the current president. I don’t want to risk losing out on future opportunities in the land of the free.

Just don't visit USA and you will be fine.

Not practical in many cases. I'm starting a new job soon and have to visit the US. No way am I saying no to that (way too good a job).

I'll probably just buy a decoy phone for the border.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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post #101

It's so surprising that despute so many screams "China" in western media in the last 15 years, it happens in the west, but in China it's free to use any OS without any negative consequences. Why? What's going on?

Not true the part about China, but yes Western countries do like to pretend they have a lot more freedom than they do. If you can't criticize or protest Xi in China, try criticize or protesting the laws in rest of the world. Especially the things they do in the name of privacy, I remember UK jailing folks for FB posts, that's stuff that happens in third world countries. Not that UK ever had much of a leg to stand on,…

US now apparently asked your social media account including public access if you apply for a visa. Chinese don't care about that.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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post #111

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The Palestine Action ban was overturned by the courts. And putting this together with the Nowak case leads to an almost contradictory position. Whatever the issues with police handling of pro-Palestinian protestors, they're not instances of what the far right would call two-tier policing (i.e. the bogus claim that the police treat white people more harshly than other ethnic groups). For example, here is a poster who'…

The police are ignoring the courts and still arresting people for protesting PA.

That's because there's a pending appeal. It may take a while for the situation to fully resolve, legally speaking, but I think it's unlikely that the ban will be sustainable in the long term.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Not sure if you've read the news during the past couple of months but things are no longer normal

watchlists existed for decades

Which watchlist was it again for using alternative operating systems?
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