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Re: CT scans of BYD car parts

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Post by raven12345 »

rasz wrote: post #390
roncesvalles wrote: post #167

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>they will do what they are told and they are usually told “make this as cheap as possible” by whoever is paying the bills It's more complicated than this. Historically, Chinese manufacturing has been notorious for quietly undermining the quality of the product to improve their margins over time, in a way that the commissioning brand doesn't notice. If a Chinese manufacturer quotes you a price too good to be true, th…

>Chinese manufacturing has been notorious for quietly undermining the quality of the product to improve their margins over time Famously Gemtek Technology ( https://www.gemteks.com/en/about/about ), Apples small obscure modem OEM at the time, when presented with contract to manufacture 1999 AirPort Wifi cards made first batch of complete duds because factory owner saw picofarad smd caps and decided it will be more pr…

Gemtek’s headquarters is established in Hsinchu, Taiwan.

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Post by yuye »

HerbManic wrote: post #109
yuye wrote: post #103

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>The control arms, subframes, etc all look good and don't fit the 'chinese car bad' narrative you always hear. While I think the "chinese quality bad" narrative still applies to many Chinese brands, this isn't as universal as it was in the past. I think my eyes were first opened when I bought myself a Huawei phone(before the Google ban). My first few smartphones had been Samsung, I've always felt the term "planned ob…

I have had a fairly good run with a lot of these Chinese phones. Huawei when we could still get them was great. Xiaomi is great build quality but they are rotting out their OS with too much bloat and up sell. Oppo has been brilliant in that they are built well, cheap and allow you strip out anything you don't want.

I had one of the last available Huawei phones, the P30 Pro, for 3 years. The only reason I had to get a new phone is because it got stolen.

>Xiaomi is great build quality but they are rotting out their OS with too much bloat and up sell.

I've tried Xiaomi phones in their stores a few times. I feel like they're trying to copy the look and feel of iOS in a way, and I generally don't like the iOS UX.

Re: CT scans of BYD car parts

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Post by stx5 »

joe_mamba wrote: post #352
stx5 wrote: post #102

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that's the reason why BYD provides lifelong warrant for their batteries, motors

Which is a scam. As with all car brands, that so called "lifetime warranty" has so many asterisks on the fine print and is only valid if religiously you stick to the manufacturer recommended regular service intervals where they rip you off at every visit. https://x.com/teslaxander/status/2062110635257700829

have you ever done any research? My BYD B5 (Denza B5) cost 40 usd per service, every 10000km

Re: CT scans of BYD car parts

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Post by dangus »

yakbarber wrote: post #368
dangus wrote: post #278

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I’m not sure why you think protectionism (by the local government) can’t kill an industry. It happened to American steel as well: the American steel industry was “protected” while foreign steel companies innovated their production processes. The timeline goes like this: 1. Government gets pressured by industry to protect domestic industry from outside competition 2. Domestic industry stagnates as it has no reason to…

yes and it's not just the end product, it's the process. China has built almost entirely automated car factories. They're already 10+ years ahead of what's happening in the US/Europe.

Just like Japan was 10+ years ahead of the US when they started selling cars in America.

The best thing that could happen to the US auto industry is if the US government allowed China into the US.

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Post by weberer »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #380
weberer wrote: post #343

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What country do you live in? They probably have credit records. Here in Finland you definitely do. They don't break it down into a single score, but lenders can see how many debts you've defaulted on in the past. https://www.oikeuspalveluvirasto.fi/en/financial-and-debt-co...

Not social credit score, this is something different.

Yes, it is a literal credit score, which the grandparent comment claimed doesn't exist in "a European country".

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

weberer wrote: post #395
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #380

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Not social credit score, this is something different.

Yes, it is a literal credit score, which the grandparent comment claimed doesn't exist in "a European country".

Social credit score affects all your actions as a citizen, and can restrict your liberty as a citizen. E.G: a cop don't like you because you sleep with his sister, they charge you on false pretense, and now your internet is more restricted or you can't take some trains.

Banking credit score only affect your ability to get a loan. You sleep with a banker sister, and... they can't do shit because there is no money trail and you can apply for a loan elsewhere. You will only be rejected for a loan if fail to pay some of your existing loans. Reasonable.

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Post by antonkochubey »

tw1984 wrote: post #263
Toutouxc wrote: post #118

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I have a Chinese EV too, an MG4 built by SAIC. It’s a really cheap car, significantly cheaper than its non-Chinese counterparts like the VW ID.3 or (roughly) a Hyundai Kona. The factory rust protection was maybe a bit on the lighter side, but everything else on it looks completely normal. The drivetrain is simple (no heat exchange mechanism between battery coolant and motor coolant, a slightly whiny motor), but also…

> VW ID.3 VW ID.3 is designed by a Chinese team in China, built in Shanghai backed entirely by the Chinese ecosystem. You need to be totally blind to consider vw being able to design & produce such a car on its own. let's be straight - the software in the car is not something Germany can build on its own. That 20 years gap won't be filled overnight.

The kind of software needed in a car (minimal or ideally none at all except for DME and CarPlay display) is indeed not something that Germans were able to build on their own in the recent times.

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Post by avhception »

ahartmetz wrote: post #377
pepperoni_pizza wrote: post #211

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Does the true version have slave labor, reeducation camps for minorities, needing permission to travel, running protestors over with tanks, and gutter oil by any chance?

There are these things, but also that daily life does not feel very oppressive at all. Very different from Soviet Russia or the GDR.

This could be mostly due to the fact that China has been on the rise, economically. So people mostly see the system working, and mostly in their favor. We'll see the real oppression once that changes.

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Post by rasz »

raven12345 wrote: post #391
rasz wrote: post #390

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>Chinese manufacturing has been notorious for quietly undermining the quality of the product to improve their margins over time Famously Gemtek Technology ( https://www.gemteks.com/en/about/about ), Apples small obscure modem OEM at the time, when presented with contract to manufacture 1999 AirPort Wifi cards made first batch of complete duds because factory owner saw picofarad smd caps and decided it will be more pr…

Gemtek’s headquarters is established in Hsinchu, Taiwan.

Republic of what?

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Post by Toutouxc »

erxam wrote: post #357
torginus wrote: post #287

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From what I've seen of youtube teardowns by mechanics, Chinese cars often have the air of modernity and future tech about them, but under the hood, they like to use technical solutions that were abandoned by European manufacturers a decade ago or more, leading to the cars not being competitive in driving dynamics to what you would get from an euro manufacturer for perhaps slightly more money.

More fun driving dynamics aren't worth the extra twenty thousand dollars you need to buy the equivalent European car, let alone the ridiculous lifetime costs of ownership, such as maintenance. I mean, seriously. I can buy a shitty Argentine-made base model used 5-year-old VW Amarok with 70K km on it for the same price as a brand new Chinese-made Changan Hunter (whether gas or REEV). The second one is also going to be…

> Let's not even talk EVs. Europeans exited the market before it even began. European brands only start to show up at around what, the 70-100K dollar bracket?

The ID.3 starts at like 35k USD here in Europe. Škoda Elroq and Enyaq, both under 50k USD.

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