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Post by Daub »

Auracle wrote: post #201
Daub wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that DaVinci’s edge is the excellent masking and node based editing it offers (via the color page) and the insanely powerful hue tools. Neither Lightroom nor Potatoshop has effective hue tools - e.g. selectively change the hue or the saturation of a color except in the most primitive way.

Capture One, however, does.

Thanks for pointing that out. You are indeed correct. However, from what I can see DaVinci's tools still have the edge. With Capture One the feedback on what hues have been selected is far vaguer than I would like. Moreover, the node-based workflow is far more suitable for complex adjustments.

Repeating a point I made in another comment: in DV it is possible to edit hue to hue, hue to saturation, hue to luminesce, luminesce to saturation, saturation to saturation and saturation to luminesce. There is also the amazing chroma warp, using which near arbitrary color adjustments can be made. Nothing out there comes even close to that capability. No wonder most Hollywood movies are color graded in DV.

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Post by jon-wood »

srameshc wrote: post #93

Does someone know if Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera is a good camera since it comes with the resolve studio ? Instead of buying a separate camera in the same price rangen (sony) for studio or indoor recording ?

Blackmagic hardware is fantastic and I doubt that particular camera is going to be an exception to that rule. Having said that the free version of Resolve is incredibly generous, and they have a professional grade camera app for iOS which will probably allow you to get quite a long way without buying a whole camera at all.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Daub »

larusso wrote: post #200
Daub wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed that the photo editing features are killer. AFAIK no other photo editing app allows the user to selectively desaturate a hue and its ability to adjust scoring to restricted lightness range is world class.

Lightroom maps support color range and luminance range. Can you explain what the difference is?

Are you referring to Lightroom's masking capability? Indeed, even in Photoshop it is possible to select a color and perform a masked adjustment. Lightroom's selection/masking tools are pretty good and for basic tasks it is fine, but the masking workflow is (IMHO) fundamentally limited. DaVinci's nodes can be stacked on top of each other and the per-hue adjustments are live. Also... I gotta say that the visualization the DV's tools offer is far superior. At a glance I can see the range of hue that have been selected as well as the degree of change they are being subject to.

FYI, In DV it is possible to edit hue to hue, hue to saturation, hue to luminesce, luminesce to saturation, saturation to saturation and saturation to luminesce. There is also the amazing chroma warp, using which near arbitrary color adjustments can be made. Nothing out there comes even close to that capability. No wonder most Hollywood movies are color graded in DV.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Andrex »

bragr wrote: post #181
Andrex wrote: post #169

Anecdote time. I couldn't get Resolve to run on my discrete-GPU-less PC running Fedora. First the lack of RPM or Flatpak were lame, but integrated graphics was the real killer. I started learning Blender VSE and walked away super impressed. Finally found my editor. (Spent years getting used to Premiere on Mac and PC.) It runs good even though I don't have a dedicated GPU yet, unlike Resolve. (And Blender is a full-on…

How are the learning resources for Blender VSE? I've tried several open source editors (openshot: not fit for any serious purpose, shotcut: would be great if not bugged out) and ended up on Resolve for the combination of being free for my purposes and good community resources. I've looked at Blender for 3D before and found the good resources tend to be out of date. Is that still an issue? edit: I may need to give the…

I tried Kdenlive, OpenShot, Shotcut, Pitivi and others. It's a personal thing but I just could not get used to their UIs. Well except for Pitivi, but that one is way too buggy.

I even briefly considered using ffmpeg and bash to get the edits I wanted...

Blender has a complicated UI but at least it feels completely consistent and thought-through. And also like it wasn't designed 20 years ago. I just have more confidence using Blender than others because it's so big, respected and known.

My learning process is basically "How do I do this thing I did in Premiere?" and basic Googling/YouTubing. I needed a tutorial video to get started but otherwise if you know NLEs it shouldn't be too hard.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by larusso »

Daub wrote: post #223
larusso wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lightroom maps support color range and luminance range. Can you explain what the difference is?

Are you referring to Lightroom's masking capability? Indeed, even in Photoshop it is possible to select a color and perform a masked adjustment. Lightroom's selection/masking tools are pretty good and for basic tasks it is fine, but the masking workflow is (IMHO) fundamentally limited. DaVinci's nodes can be stacked on top of each other and the per-hue adjustments are live. Also... I gotta say that the visualization…

Stacked you mean each node works on the input from another nodes output? So I could add a node to make green blue and another node to make blue green again? Because Lightroom mask only work on the base adjustment. Sounds good if I got this right. I wanted to play around with it anyways.

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Post by alper »

darkteflon wrote: post #138

Those who have moved to Resolve from FCP: would you share a few words about your experience? I’ve used FCP for a long time but have never loved it. I also have some experience with non-destructive workflows like Blender geonodes and have heard that Resolve adopts a similar paradigm. Definitely curious!

I felt that FCP was underpowered for compositing and grading so I switched from paid FPC to unpaid Resolve. But I don't really edit that much. Resolve is good enough for me for now.

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Post by BOOSTERHIDROGEN »

larusso wrote: post #225
Daub wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you referring to Lightroom's masking capability? Indeed, even in Photoshop it is possible to select a color and perform a masked adjustment. Lightroom's selection/masking tools are pretty good and for basic tasks it is fine, but the masking workflow is (IMHO) fundamentally limited. DaVinci's nodes can be stacked on top of each other and the per-hue adjustments are live. Also... I gotta say that the visualization…

Stacked you mean each node works on the input from another nodes output? So I could add a node to make green blue and another node to make blue green again? Because Lightroom mask only work on the base adjustment. Sounds good if I got this right. I wanted to play around with it anyways.

Yes it work like that.

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Post by tobyhinloopen »

entropie wrote: post #187
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #168

I like that it runs on Linux but coming from Lightroom, it is a challenge to use. I don’t even know how to import photos that are added to a previously imported folder

I used lightroom over a decade and besides the initial quirks i fucking love darktable. After 6 month I actually like it more than lightroom and never looked back.

I tried Darktable a few times and I just couldn’t stand it hah. I’ll try it again, hah, Tnx!

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Post by edb_123 »

Arainach wrote: post #149
switchbak wrote: post #124

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I was a lightroom user for almost 20 years, and their licensing ridiculousness was enough for me to: - change up my workflow, avoiding raw so I can use simpler editing processes - do way less editing - take way fewer photos It sucks, but I just can't justify their insane pricing scheme. I've been looking for Linux-capable tools for a while, and Darktable / Rawtherapee are a long way from what I'm after. What you desc…

This seems like an overreaction that punishes you more than Adobe. There are a number of other tools - until fairly recently Capture One offered perpetual licensing, for instance. Giving up RAW to spite Adobe is like being angry at Microsoft Office subscription pricing and saying you'll abandon word processors and just use a typewriter instead.

Back when Adobe upended their perpetual licensing, Capture One was touted as _the_ alternative and I gave it a try since my new Sony camera's RAW format wasn't supported by the last perpetual-license Lightroom version anyway. And man, coming from Lightroom, Capture One was one of the most horrendous usability experiences I have ever had in a creative tool. Even after keeping on trying for a long time, I could absolutely not find a workflow that worked for me and that wasn't filled with obstacles, pains, slowness, inexplicable UI design choices and illogical workflows that totally broke the creative process. It made me miss and appreciate Lightroom so much. But as a photo hobbyist I couldn't justify Adobe's then-new licensing model anyway and the hobby just dwindled away. I ended up finding other paths to express my creative side instead.

If Capture One still is like this, I wouldn't really be surprised if there's truth to the other comment here claiming that their current owners are trying to offload them.

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Post by p0nce »

goblin89 wrote: post #132

I tolerate Resolve, essentially it’s just inertia. It is hard to imagine software could be commercial and so poorly made. My favorite glitch that has persisted for many versions is how if you background it while it is launching, the GUI becomes frozen and the only way to use it is to kill the process and then launch it again making sure to not switch to any other apps while it loads. The worst one that comes to mind,…

Mmm I have a different experience. For me other NLE tools were more crashy than Resolve. Resolve also has an incredible feature set and with a one-time payment is a terrific deal. But years ago, it was very much bug-ridden for sure.
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