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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by bragr »

Andrex wrote: post #169

Anecdote time. I couldn't get Resolve to run on my discrete-GPU-less PC running Fedora. First the lack of RPM or Flatpak were lame, but integrated graphics was the real killer. I started learning Blender VSE and walked away super impressed. Finally found my editor. (Spent years getting used to Premiere on Mac and PC.) It runs good even though I don't have a dedicated GPU yet, unlike Resolve. (And Blender is a full-on…

How are the learning resources for Blender VSE? I've tried several open source editors (openshot: not fit for any serious purpose, shotcut: would be great if not bugged out) and ended up on Resolve for the combination of being free for my purposes and good community resources. I've looked at Blender for 3D before and found the good resources tend to be out of date. Is that still an issue?

edit: I may need to give the OpenShot 3.x a chance. The OpenShot release history [1] makes the claim that they have addressed many of my complaints

[1] https://www.openshot.org/blog/

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by l33tbro »

embedding-shape wrote: post #173
l33tbro wrote: post #147

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> wasted hours editing Editing is a craft. You have to watch everything, otherwise you don't know what you have. A machine organising stringouts and selects can work for interviews, but not for action. But even then it is only parsing your media for semantic intent. It misses the way things are said, which often imparts a different meaning. You can use AI features for editing. But it is unlikely you will be making an…

> You can use AI features for editing. But it is unlikely you will be making anything very intetesting. What? It bears no impact on if what you're making is interesting or not, couldn't matter less. People been creating amazing things with nothing, and absolute trash with everything, and also vice-versa, seems to be all up to the person's taste and skill, and less to do with the actual tools they use.

"Taste and skill" is my exact point. If you are not watching everything you have captured, then what you make will most likely not be as interesting than if you had.

I think your mistake is to assume editing is like painting, where you can just make something brilliant with a few colours and a canvas. But editing is much more analogous to writing a book. If you have read extensively on Ancient Rome and spent time comprehending the subject, you will create something far more interesting than essentially remixing a few primer books and articles that have suggested to you by an LLM.

People have indeed "been creating amazing things with nothing" in the expressive arts, but that approach falls short when the value comes from communicating depth from narrative information.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by jwrallie »

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #110
bbatha wrote: post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

> ...before you'd want to change your subscription... For anyone not in the know, Resolve has an exceptionally capable and feature rich free version. A lot of the AI features (and >4k editing) are locked to the Studio licence which is a one-time payment, but works simultaneously on two computers (including different OS's) and allows upgrades across major versions. I spent less than $300 on it a decade ago and my lice…

That’s quite reasonable. Props for them for doing it.

Without updates included, buying a lifetime license nowadays feels more like a subscription which expires as soon as your OS upgrades instead. It also creates a lot of friction with different file formats when you try to collaborate. companies know how to exploit this to force you into subscriptions.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by coldtea »

nandomrumber wrote: post #77
dofm wrote: post #59

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That wasn’t an AI tool at all, though. Neither is pre-2023 content-aware fill, AFAIK. They are both PatchMatch (well the healing brush certainly is), which is a heroic bit of code. Entirely deterministic statistical algorithm. Not AI by really any definition (including back then)

Probably not you, but on this very forum there are plenty who will argue that LLMs / AI are entirely deterministic and that given enough time, a chisel, and sufficient clay tablets, any AI output can be calculated by hand. I don’t know enough about anything to determine which opinion is correct. Is AI output not just matrix multiplication and a random seed?

>Probably not you, but on this very forum there are plenty who will argue that LLMs / AI are entirely deterministic and that given enough time, a chisel, and sufficient clay tablets, any AI output can be calculated by hand.

Any particular AI output is deterministic (and can be calculated by hand even, if you're immortal).

But it's not deterministic in the sense that (a) it's a black box on the Cloud, (b) repeated AI prompts don't give the same results.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by coldtea »

echelon wrote: post #130
swatcoder wrote: post #32

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> Most video is going to be AI in the near future That's like saying all fine art would be photography, all film would be CGI, or all music would be synthesized electronica. That's not how aesthetics seem to work. Artists will make more or less good use of generative AI in their work, and it will probably seep into most media in some way or another, effecting them, but arts mostly don't get replaced and AI doesn't re…

It's saying most art will be created with AI. Like saying most pictures will be made with digital cameras. Like saying most music will be captured and edited digitally. You guys have an anti-AI bug and it's eating you alive and blinding you to the future that is unfolding. It's toxic and you're all 100% wrong. Your hate makes it impossible to see all of the improvements. I've been a filmmaker for decades. This tech i…

>You guys have an anti-AI bug and it's eating you alive and blinding you to the future that is unfolding

For the moment what is unfolding is a dystopia shoved down most people's throats, whether they want it or not.

And the bug is obviously the "AI bug", a foreign body recently introduced. The "bug" can't be our default previous state (no AI).

>I've been a filmmaker for decades. This tech is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed. And it's just getting started

Hopefully it will be over soon.

>Stop being old men yelling at clouds

You know that the leading AI providers and experts in the field often discuss how AI can/might/surely will wipe us off? Not some random guys with signs in some street corner. The main people behind it.

Now, I don't believe it's so, at least not for the reasons mentioned, like the singularity. But there are very dark results from AI in society and in many domains.

But hey, we can make pretty uncanny valley (for now) videos and special effects! No need to involve or employ humans in our art either. And the human art can be drowned in a sea of AI crap, so noone will really see our AI art either. Such amazing tech /s

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by entropie »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #168

I like that it runs on Linux but coming from Lightroom, it is a challenge to use. I don’t even know how to import photos that are added to a previously imported folder

I used lightroom over a decade and besides the initial quirks i fucking love darktable. After 6 month I actually like it more than lightroom and never looked back.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by sbarre »

Melatonic wrote: post #162
sbarre wrote: post #141

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Oh I missed that, thank you! That's good to know.. Yeah I've used previous Studio versions to edit videos from my camera without any trouble. I'm just excited to finally ditch my Adobe subscription ASAP. :-)

Hope they add the Lumix support soon too!

So it seems RW2 support is in the non-beta version of 21, I spoke too soon.

The docs page is incorrect, I was able to load my Lumix RAW files in no problem.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by fooblaster »

Arainach wrote: post #160
switchbak wrote: post #151

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I don't have spite for Adobe, that seems like a projection on your part. But I can't justify the purchase, and have adapted the way I take photos as part of that. It's more like finding the subscription for a CAD program too expensive, and swapping to something more primitive instead. If that offends you, I think you gotta have a long hard look in a mirror some time.

The point is that there are many options, at many different price points including free, that don't involve giving up 95% of the data your camera sensor provides and don't lock you into getting the exposure perfectly right the first time or else. FastRawViewer, DxO, Affinity, Darktable, Capture One. Those are just the ones I personally have installed. There's also RawTherapee, a number of camera OEM-specific tools, a…

I looked to see if any of these tools support the hdr gain map export that Lightroom supports, and of course, absolutely none of them do. I can't use these.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by nandomrumber »

coldtea wrote: post #185
nandomrumber wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not you, but on this very forum there are plenty who will argue that LLMs / AI are entirely deterministic and that given enough time, a chisel, and sufficient clay tablets, any AI output can be calculated by hand. I don’t know enough about anything to determine which opinion is correct. Is AI output not just matrix multiplication and a random seed?

> Probably not you, but on this very forum there are plenty who will argue that LLMs / AI are entirely deterministic and that given enough time, a chisel, and sufficient clay tablets, any AI output can be calculated by hand. Any particular AI output is deterministic (and can be calculated by hand even, if you're immortal). But it's not deterministic in the sense that (a) it's a black box on the Cloud, (b) repeated AI…

Isn’t your (b) only because of the addition of a random seed?
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