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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Unfortunately they are far from Lightroom, maybe next year they'll be closer. I really would like to ditch Lightroom but there is no alternative

Ridiculous. Darktable and rawtherapee off the top of my head. There are many others.

None of those have reliable selective tool. Unpractical to use professionally.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

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For commercial use maybe. Not for documentary or personal use.

Actually what ruins camera businesses are smartphones, not AI.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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people complaining about AI features have clearly never wasted hours editing video or lost time and money discovering a technical flaw in a rush shot three days ago. For actual workflows, these tools are lifesavers

> wasted hours editing Editing is a craft. You have to watch everything, otherwise you don't know what you have. A machine organising stringouts and selects can work for interviews, but not for action. But even then it is only parsing your media for semantic intent. It misses the way things are said, which often imparts a different meaning. You can use AI features for editing. But it is unlikely you will be making an…

> You can use AI features for editing. But it is unlikely you will be making anything very intetesting.

What? It bears no impact on if what you're making is interesting or not, couldn't matter less. People been creating amazing things with nothing, and absolute trash with everything, and also vice-versa, seems to be all up to the person's taste and skill, and less to do with the actual tools they use.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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I doubt it. Artists hate fully AI generated slop. Artists appreciate and use time saving tools. The AI features in Lightroom, for example, are very well received by photographers (myself included). Automatic subject, background, sky, body part masking, content-aware/generative fill and generative remove are genuinely helpful and time saving.

These tools are very specific and keep the artist in control. Slop generators aren't reallly controlable.

What tools in this release are "slop generators"? The entire context for the entire discussion here on HN should be "AI tools in the hands of capable professionals", as this is software for professionals, most of which highly appreciate most of the features BMD puts out, including the ones prefixed with "AI".

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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> My opinion is that, for end users, if you name your feature "AI" to market it, you kind of already failed to read the room. You're writing to VCs while hoping it convinces customers. 100% this. Maybe I live in a bubble, but consumer sentiment regarding AI seems extremely negative. Boasting "AI" features is more likely to lose sales than to create them.

But their target audience are creators, not consumers. Creators love AI.

> Creators love AI

This is way to broad, there is a whole slew of creators, at different scales with different motivations and what not, you can't really say that such a large group loves/hates anything.

Personally, I see video professionals loving AI features that save them boring work, same as for me as a programmer and hobbyist video editor, yet we want to manually do the interesting stuff.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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I was a lightroom user for almost 20 years, and their licensing ridiculousness was enough for me to: - change up my workflow, avoiding raw so I can use simpler editing processes - do way less editing - take way fewer photos It sucks, but I just can't justify their insane pricing scheme. I've been looking for Linux-capable tools for a while, and Darktable / Rawtherapee are a long way from what I'm after. What you desc…

This seems like an overreaction that punishes you more than Adobe. There are a number of other tools - until fairly recently Capture One offered perpetual licensing, for instance. Giving up RAW to spite Adobe is like being angry at Microsoft Office subscription pricing and saying you'll abandon word processors and just use a typewriter instead.

Capture One is a shitshow, however, and their new owner is actively trying to offload them, so a risk.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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There's a Linux amd64 version and a Windows arm64 version. However, I use a Linux arm64 machine, and arm64 machines are going to be a lot more common going forward. I wonder if there are plans to release a Linux arm64 build?

Unless you are on Apple silicon, then im not sure the ARM cpu and hardware is powerful enough for you to get a decent experience. It is heavy software, after all. Still, I would expect them to release Linux ARM builds when we inevitably move over to ARM as the common arch. :)

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Ridiculous. Darktable and rawtherapee off the top of my head. There are many others.

None of those have reliable selective tool. Unpractical to use professionally.

Darktable 5.6 will have AI masks.

Anyway, I tried them, and found that, after you master the "a few rough brush strokes + adjust feathering and mask opacity until it snaps" and "overzealous brush + parametric mask" techniques taught in any Darktable course, for wildlife photo editing, AI doesn't bring much. And yes, this does require a course to break the "perfect mask is required" mindset.

Yes, Lightroom courses will brainwash you that AI "select subject, select sky, select object" workflow is the only modern way to do selective editing, but this is the Lightroom workflow. For Lightroom, it is a natural workflow, because it is, in Lightroom, the best strategy that can create a mask that aligns well with the object edges - until it doesn't. Other editors (such as ART and Darktable) have other idiomatic workflows for masking, and they work, because they have other tools than Lightroom for snapping the mask or refining it.

Bird feathers spread out on the tips of their wings are one particularly bad example where AI struggles, but non-AI tools don't.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Ridiculous. Darktable and rawtherapee off the top of my head. There are many others.

I tried to like Darktable but even after more than a year I couldn’t get the hang of it. It almost killed the hobby for me. Lightroom just works for me.

I suggest that you try https://artraweditor.github.io/ as an alternative.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Unfortunately they are far from Lightroom, maybe next year they'll be closer. I really would like to ditch Lightroom but there is no alternative

Ridiculous. Darktable and rawtherapee off the top of my head. There are many others.

I tried Darktable and I don't doubt it's a powerful RAW editing software but it feels like to be effective with it you need to care about the software more than you do about photography. With Lightroom/Capture One etc. it's the opposite. Darktable is just too 'out there'
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