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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by kuschku »

justinator wrote: post #123

The only thing wrong with Resolve is there is no "just get out of my way and let me get something done" mode. No easy/beginner mode. This is a very sizable, complicated piece of a software that has little bounds on what you can do with it. The learning curve is as steep and tall as the granite walls of El Capitan. That's not really a critique on the software -- it's not trying to be what it's not. But the criticism o…

> The learning curve is as steep and tall as the granite walls of El Capitan.

Have you read the beginners guide? https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/DaVinci-R...

At 643 pages it's surprisingly short for how many subjects it introduces. Going further you'll of course want to read In the Blink of an Eye.(978-1879505629) and the Color Correction Handbook (978-0133435542).

And the actual Resolve manual is also really really good. https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/DaVinci_R...

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by bigbuppo »

Arainach wrote: post #149
switchbak wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was a lightroom user for almost 20 years, and their licensing ridiculousness was enough for me to: - change up my workflow, avoiding raw so I can use simpler editing processes - do way less editing - take way fewer photos It sucks, but I just can't justify their insane pricing scheme. I've been looking for Linux-capable tools for a while, and Darktable / Rawtherapee are a long way from what I'm after. What you desc…

This seems like an overreaction that punishes you more than Adobe. There are a number of other tools - until fairly recently Capture One offered perpetual licensing, for instance. Giving up RAW to spite Adobe is like being angry at Microsoft Office subscription pricing and saying you'll abandon word processors and just use a typewriter instead.

Capture One still offers a perpetual license for US$349... it's the option down at the bottom, of course. And they still do discounted upgrade pricing on that, too.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by aesthesia »

nandomrumber wrote: post #190
coldtea wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Probably not you, but on this very forum there are plenty who will argue that LLMs / AI are entirely deterministic and that given enough time, a chisel, and sufficient clay tablets, any AI output can be calculated by hand. Any particular AI output is deterministic (and can be calculated by hand even, if you're immortal). But it's not deterministic in the sense that (a) it's a black box on the Cloud, (b) repeated AI…

Isn’t your (b) only because of the addition of a random seed?

LLM inference can be implemented in a way where nondeterminism depends only on the random seed, but that's not common. It ends up being more efficient/easier to implement kernels whose exact results depend on how many other prompts are being processed in parallel. See https://thinkingmachines.ai/blog/defeating-nondeterminism-in... for a pretty extensive exploration.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by gmueckl »

embedding-shape wrote: post #174
gmueckl wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These tools are very specific and keep the artist in control. Slop generators aren't reallly controlable.

What tools in this release are "slop generators"? The entire context for the entire discussion here on HN should be "AI tools in the hands of capable professionals", as this is software for professionals, most of which highly appreciate most of the features BMD puts out, including the ones prefixed with "AI".

Sorry, I was unclear. I was referring to wholesale text to image/text to vudeo generation as sloppy generators. That is not what Black Magic or Adobe is building.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by justinator »

kuschku wrote: post #191
justinator wrote: post #123

The only thing wrong with Resolve is there is no "just get out of my way and let me get something done" mode. No easy/beginner mode. This is a very sizable, complicated piece of a software that has little bounds on what you can do with it. The learning curve is as steep and tall as the granite walls of El Capitan. That's not really a critique on the software -- it's not trying to be what it's not. But the criticism o…

> The learning curve is as steep and tall as the granite walls of El Capitan. Have you read the beginners guide? https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/DaVinci-R... At 643 pages it's surprisingly short for how many subjects it introduces. Going further you'll of course want to read In the Blink of an Eye.(978-1879505629) and the Color Correction Handbook (978-0133435542). And the actual Resolve manual is…

"The beginner's guide is only 643 pages" may support my POV more than you may think.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Daub »

bbatha wrote: post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

Agreed that the photo editing features are killer. AFAIK no other photo editing app allows the user to selectively desaturate a hue and its ability to adjust scoring to restricted lightness range is world class.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Daub »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #153
andrei_says_ wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have both the latest Lightroom and Davinci Resolve. Recently I edited a few images requiring removing extra people from the frame and I was able to do all editing in Lightroom, in seconds. As much as I dislike Adobe, Lightroom’s shortcuts and flow are now habits. I will likely continue using both.

I have tried most RAW editors and as a total package Lightroom always came out on top for me. The AI masking is a huge improvement.

I believe that DaVinci’s edge is the excellent masking and node based editing it offers (via the color page) and the insanely powerful hue tools. Neither Lightroom nor Potatoshop has effective hue tools - e.g. selectively change the hue or the saturation of a color except in the most primitive way.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by larusso »

switchbak wrote: post #152
qmr wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absurd to let them affect you so. There are powerful alternatives many of them open source.

Absurd? What's with you folks and your strongly charged language? Please recommend these "powerful alternatives", because I have explored the space and found nothing that replaces Lightroom in a way that I find acceptable. Please omit Darktable and Rawtherapee as I've already evaluated those.

I think non native speakers may not have a good feeling how charged a word or phrase is.

In their defense you only spoke about dropping your raw workflow for something simpler not that you looked for a special HDR RAW support.

I know it’s Apple and may not what you look for but does Photomator tick these boxes?

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by larusso »

Daub wrote: post #197
bbatha wrote: post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

Agreed that the photo editing features are killer. AFAIK no other photo editing app allows the user to selectively desaturate a hue and its ability to adjust scoring to restricted lightness range is world class.

Lightroom maps support color range and luminance range. Can you explain what the difference is?
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