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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by switchbak »

Arainach wrote: post #149
switchbak wrote: post #124

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I was a lightroom user for almost 20 years, and their licensing ridiculousness was enough for me to: - change up my workflow, avoiding raw so I can use simpler editing processes - do way less editing - take way fewer photos It sucks, but I just can't justify their insane pricing scheme. I've been looking for Linux-capable tools for a while, and Darktable / Rawtherapee are a long way from what I'm after. What you desc…

This seems like an overreaction that punishes you more than Adobe. There are a number of other tools - until fairly recently Capture One offered perpetual licensing, for instance. Giving up RAW to spite Adobe is like being angry at Microsoft Office subscription pricing and saying you'll abandon word processors and just use a typewriter instead.

I don't have spite for Adobe, that seems like a projection on your part. But I can't justify the purchase, and have adapted the way I take photos as part of that.

It's more like finding the subscription for a CAD program too expensive, and swapping to something more primitive instead. If that offends you, I think you gotta have a long hard look in a mirror some time.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by switchbak »

qmr wrote: post #144
switchbak wrote: post #124

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I was a lightroom user for almost 20 years, and their licensing ridiculousness was enough for me to: - change up my workflow, avoiding raw so I can use simpler editing processes - do way less editing - take way fewer photos It sucks, but I just can't justify their insane pricing scheme. I've been looking for Linux-capable tools for a while, and Darktable / Rawtherapee are a long way from what I'm after. What you desc…

Absurd to let them affect you so. There are powerful alternatives many of them open source.

Absurd? What's with you folks and your strongly charged language?

Please recommend these "powerful alternatives", because I have explored the space and found nothing that replaces Lightroom in a way that I find acceptable. Please omit Darktable and Rawtherapee as I've already evaluated those.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #114
bbatha wrote: post #9

For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the bet…

I have both the latest Lightroom and Davinci Resolve. Recently I edited a few images requiring removing extra people from the frame and I was able to do all editing in Lightroom, in seconds. As much as I dislike Adobe, Lightroom’s shortcuts and flow are now habits. I will likely continue using both.

I have tried most RAW editors and as a total package Lightroom always came out on top for me. The AI masking is a huge improvement.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by echelon »

echoangle wrote: post #29
echelon wrote: post #19

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Aren’t the cameras they are making aimed at professional productions? Those are probably going to replaced last, the first thing will be (or are) TikTok clips shot on smartphones. I don’t think they’ll see a decline in cinema camera sales due to AI soon.

> I don’t think they’ll see a decline in cinema camera sales due to AI soon.

Happy to bet on this!

Expensive glass and all of the processes around it takes more time, money, and resources than Seedance 2.0. And these models are only a few years old at this point.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

qmr wrote: post #145
mistic92 wrote: post #122

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Unfortunately they are far from Lightroom, maybe next year they'll be closer. I really would like to ditch Lightroom but there is no alternative

Ridiculous. Darktable and rawtherapee off the top of my head. There are many others.

I tried to like Darktable but even after more than a year I couldn’t get the hang of it. It almost killed the hobby for me. Lightroom just works for me.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by echelon »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #74
echelon wrote: post #19

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So live A/V is just dead now? Movies are dead? I really don't get where this take is coming from.

> So live A/V is just dead now?

I'm an indie filmmaker and I do community theater. We use gaussian splats for 3D filmmaking, and we're already using AI for background plates and VFX shots.

Where this is going - your local community theater will be able to have Lord of the Rings / Gollum-style facial/body rigs that eventually work in real time, and actors will markerless mocap into super high fidelity fantasy and science fiction scenes.

> Movies are dead? I really don't get where this take is coming from.

Movies will never be more real and more personal. The folks at A24 are going to have Marvel powers with way better stories.

Stop being so bearish. These are tools, and creative people will abuse the hell out of them to do wildly cool things.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by echoangle »

echelon wrote: post #154
echoangle wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren’t the cameras they are making aimed at professional productions? Those are probably going to replaced last, the first thing will be (or are) TikTok clips shot on smartphones. I don’t think they’ll see a decline in cinema camera sales due to AI soon.

> I don’t think they’ll see a decline in cinema camera sales due to AI soon. Happy to bet on this! Expensive glass and all of the processes around it takes more time, money, and resources than Seedance 2.0. And these models are only a few years old at this point.

> Expensive glass and all of the processes around it takes more time, money, and resources than Seedance 2.0.

Sure, but the results will also seem better to a cinematographer.

When do you expect the first movie with fully 3D-generated imagery (which would mean that a camera was actually replaced by AI) will be released?

I can imagine it will happen at some point, but I don't see it soon.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by rightbyte »

rafram wrote: post #125
rightbyte wrote: post #85

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Why would the law make exemptions for running the search on on a computer that has the database.

Because outlawing the local facial recognition that software like Lightroom and Apple Photos has offered for decades would be extraordinarily silly?

Sure. I guess the intent is the main difference.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Post by Arainach »

switchbak wrote: post #151
Arainach wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like an overreaction that punishes you more than Adobe. There are a number of other tools - until fairly recently Capture One offered perpetual licensing, for instance. Giving up RAW to spite Adobe is like being angry at Microsoft Office subscription pricing and saying you'll abandon word processors and just use a typewriter instead.

I don't have spite for Adobe, that seems like a projection on your part. But I can't justify the purchase, and have adapted the way I take photos as part of that. It's more like finding the subscription for a CAD program too expensive, and swapping to something more primitive instead. If that offends you, I think you gotta have a long hard look in a mirror some time.

The point is that there are many options, at many different price points including free, that don't involve giving up 95% of the data your camera sensor provides and don't lock you into getting the exposure perfectly right the first time or else.

FastRawViewer, DxO, Affinity, Darktable, Capture One. Those are just the ones I personally have installed. There's also RawTherapee, a number of camera OEM-specific tools, and more.

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