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Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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The world saw Anthropic take a possibly company-killing risk wrt weaponizing their AI, and are rewarding them for holding to their values, for now at least. It’s not like anyone owes Sam Altman their business just bc their product has become slightly, perhaps temporarily, better

Both companies don't mind weaponization. The difference is whether it should only be domestic. Both are ok with foreigners being bombed.

That aligns with average human values

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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Mechinterp in general is just completely undervalued right now (and agreed Anthropic's team is doing the most rigorous work, now accompanied by Goodfire). They're doing the closest work to neuroscience's in vivo 'thought-tracing', which is just the most wild science fiction sort of thing to be working on, and yet I feel the average person has no idea this sort of work is happening. When combined with the idea of the…

Haven't heard about the universal subspace hypothesis yet, so I appreciate the digression.

Ya, super interesting research area the authors explored of basically trying to answer the question: "Is there a canonical/intrinsic way that concepts/representations/information are 'stored' in the universe/reality?".

They tested that by performing "spectral analysis of over 1100 models - including 500 Mistral-7B LoRAs, 500 Vision Transformers, and 50 LLaMA-8B models ... by applying spectral decomposition techniques to the weight matrices of various architectures", and concluding that "deep neural networks trained across diverse tasks exhibit remarkably similar low-dimensional parametric subspaces", showing that "neural networks systematically converge to shared spectral subspaces regardless of initialization, task, or domain".

Not just philosophically interesting but also has practical implications for being smarter about how to reuse models, model merging, developing more sustainable training and inference algos, etc.

Paper source: https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.05117

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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Claude is more reliable in production, less errors and better understand instructions. That's why the valuation shifted, technical people are choosing Claude for actual shipped products.

This isn’t the case at all, the most technical and best engineers are all using Codex now and have been for roughly six months. It’s a known “secret” for a while now how much better Codex is than Claude. I’ve used both since they were released and I often implement in both to compare and 95% of the time Codex writes better code and also less code! Claude is only really better at front end design.

How could you possibly know all the most "technical and best engineers?". Wait.. are you a codex instance?

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

So you both used Anthropic models (Opus 4.7 being from Anthropic)? I'm struggling to understand what your comparison really was here.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

I found that the newest opus and 5.5 are definitely close enough where most of the work I do could be done with either. I've seen small differences in planning which I feel like Claude does do better, but I think both products are close enough where I wouldn't be upset if one disappeared.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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Sam Altman is so cartoonishly, over-the-top sociopathically shady that he makes JD Vance look like Benjamin Franklin. I mean, honestly, tricking third world people into retinal scans in order to get a scam crypto coin? Anyone using OpenAI for anything at this point should pause and examine their ethical compass.

Anthropic models are more misaligned in practice. in a real world business scenario, Claude "engaged in price collusion, deceived other players, lied to suppliers, and falsely told customers it had refunded them." Continuing, "GPT-5.5 makes more money than Opus 4.7, and it does so without any misconduct. Opus 4.7, on the other hand, showed the same misconduct as reported in our post about Opus 4.6, but still couldn’t…

Anthropic talks to the Pope and hires ethicists and philosophers. All founders have pledged to donate 80% of their wealth. They have pledged to never use ad tech because of misaligned incentives. There is an independent board.

Meanwhile Greg Brockman is worth all the Anthropic founders PUT TOGETHER, he and his wife are the single largest donors to Trump, and he and Altman have formed a board full of sycophants and stolen a non-profit. When Altman was fired, they manipulated their morally bereft, money-hungry employees to get their own way. They have reneged on every single promise they've made as soon as it's inconvenient.

Why do I care about the models again?

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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> At the top level of anything there is almost no such thing as a non-asshole. There's only one Gabe. > None of them care genuinely about you they just want your money. It's worse than this. Billionaire entrepreneurs aren't funds manager, they don't just want money, they have a twisted sense of “being the good guy” driving humanity forward against its will.

> driving humanity forward against its will. I want this technology! You don't speak for all of us. I'm sick of techo-Luddism. I'm sick of complaints about water use in a world that has avocados, beef, and fabric dyes. I'm sick of complaints about power use when you have your air conditioners, winter heat, air travel, and gaming PCs. I'm sick of artists saying AI image and video sucks. I'm sick of pretend artists, ar…

That’s a take. Would be cool if you could be happy with what is, rather than what you wish could be, while still being optimistic about new tech. But even if you can’t, would be nice if you could have your optimism without letting other people’s differing opinions get under your skin.

I’d also suggest, if you care about things like curing “every molecular cause of cancer” to spend some time and energy working in that field to understand the real problems there and work towards real solutions (with models or whatever floats your boat), rather than hoping that some poorly defined techno-optimism hand-waving will just happen to result in the best of all possible worlds, with no downsides or alternative outcomes.

Also, crazy to say that the miracle of existence is boring because we don’t have the tech you imagine!! If that’s your take now, no new technology is going to fix it. You’ll just still be bored with the holodeck and your one precious life to live.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

I find this pattern annoying and also commonplace: MY taste is correct. I AM right. The emergent properties of free market resulting from revealed preferences of free willed agents is WRONG.

Any name suitable to name this phenomenon?

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I’ve heard this said, but why?

he pushes mysticism of the models he's starkly anti-China with a warlike posture that I find dangerous and unappealing Anthropic has a much more confused mission statement than OpenAI in interviews, Dario appears to care little for the well-being of common folk, while Sam at least pretends

I’d take honesty over deceitfulness any day of the week.

I guess I can see why you’d want to bury your head in the sand and pretend powerful people aren’t all that bad.

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