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Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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Re: Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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Climate and terrain allowing, bicycles reign supreme as a transport. Especially with all the new adaptive-, electric-, accessible- cycles out there, cars should be "rare but welcome strange guests" in many neighborhoods, downtowns, etc.

As you mentioned, electric bicycles flatten terrains (so do wide gear ranges), and jackets neutralize climate. There seriously isn't anywhere that is inappropriate to cycle. The only major limiting factor for people feeling comfortable biking everywhere is the threat of violence due to people driving cars.

Lightening is another limit. I'm going to drive to work today because there is a 20% chance of thunderstorm when I'm planning to going home, and that is too much risk.

Re: Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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Do passengers have any rights against their personal data being collected when riding (not driving) in someone else's vehicle? I tried to look this up on my own but my results were always polluted with public transportation, or vehicle accident situations or just this gem "share your concerns with your driver, they can explain the data being collected".

You probably do, but it would cost you tens of million in lawyer costs that you won't get back.

Re: Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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Motorcycles broadcast an equal amount of data as bicycles.

Are you sure? Motorcycles already have computers, it isn't a stretch to think they could broadcast data about you. Maybe they are a decade behind cars in doing this, but I doubt it is anything else. Bicycles don't have enough power to spare to broadcast data. (but my ebike could and I wouldn't notice the difference)

Yes. Point out the modem.

https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda-motorcycle/500-MOTO/R...

Re: Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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I know braking data is used to identify dangerous road sites / locations, and dangerous prior driving behavior of this car. The dangerous road site versus driver can be disentangled by statistics: if the road site / location results in similar braking behavior in other drivers, its more associated to the site, if the braking behavior is more correlated with the driver, its more attributable to this driver. However mo…

The insurance company doesn’t care whether the risk is because of the driver or because of the road that the driver is on. They are on the hook for the risk either way.

This is why insurance companies also use your zip code to rate you. If you live near roads with more losses, you are more likely to incur losses. Doesn’t matter if you’re a great driver or not — someone might hit you.

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For those wondering, you can still buy all the major components for a simple pre-computerised car from the aftermarket, and classic cars are definitely going to continue rising in value.

until they are outlawed. we are nowhere near done thinking of the children.

They won't be. The newer classics still have a lot of poor people driving them and so they don't date. The older ones so few exists (and most are only used in parades or Sunday drives) and so it isn't worth the bother - it wouldn't make a difference and would make the few people who have them mad.

Unless we see a great push in good public transit such that most people choose not to drive. However that won't happen: Republicans hate transit, and Democrats like transit for non-transportation reasons.

Re: Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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You can do that just be aware that you will eventually be spending more than just buying a new car just to keep the current one in good repair. Car collectors get around this because they use have a different car as the daily driver, and their collected car is repaired and only used in parades and such. You are also turning away a lot of the advances in electric vehicles. Paying for gas in your old car, could be more…

You are also increasing your risk of death or serious injury. New cars are far safer in a collision than cars made 15-20 years ago.

Are they though? Have there been any major breakthroughs in the engineering that make a 2026 car more structurally secure than one from 2011? I thought the main improvements were made in software, like lane assist and whatever else. But my assumption is that you need to go back considerably more than 15 years ago to see vehicles that are meaningfully less structurally safe.

Re: Cars collect a startling amount of data about you

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Don't forget Bill Gates. People generally don't know he's heir of one of the richest banking families in Washington state.

One thing is old money, another is telling everyone you are selfmade when in fact you are a nepo kid. If you are old money you tend towards intelligence roles because they give you diplomatic passport and make you immune to the law. It is much better than owning 5 passports from some banana republic because in the end only military might of the colonial powers counts (e.g. the british crown). So many of the silicon v…

What does it mean to be ‘in intelligence’ in this context?
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