The Artificial Analysis benchmark results are pretty underwhelming. Roughly the same "intelligence" as MiMo-V2.5-Pro for over 3x the cost. We'll have to see how that translates to actual usage but it's not a great sign.
That really depends on whether they have similar parameter counts, doesn't it? Unless you know that, the comparison is just strange
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#503For those who would like to know the total and active parameter count of this model: even though Google doesn't disclose the model technicals, we can infer them within relatively tight margins based on what we do know. We know they serve the model on TPU 8i, which we have plenty of hard specs for (so we know the key constraints: total memory and bandwidth and compute flops). We can also set a ceiling on the compute c…
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#504Wow at the price hike. Still I think in the long run the Chinese will win if they're able to produce hardware comparable to Nvidia.
Aren't China also allowed to purchase Nvidia GPUs now too?
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Love your pelicans, as always. And that one is... Wow. I noticed the "Synthwave" aesthetic, which is enjoying quite some success since quite some time now, has found its way into AI models (even when it's not in the user's query). It's not the first time I see the sun at sunset with color bands etc. in AI-generated pictures. Don't know why it's now taking on in AI too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthwave Hence th…
Sythwave vibe hype hit a cultural high point with the release of Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon in 2013. So it's as relevant and baked-in to today as actual 80s synth-culture was in 2000.
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#507Yikes. I think the concept of a 'flash' model is changing, no? Google used to market this as its lower-intelligence, faster, cheaper option. I appreciate that they are delivering on both of those, but personally I would appreciate if they could create an incremental knowledge improvement while holding price steady. Fortune 500 companies have to make their money I guess.
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#508For those who would like to know the total and active parameter count of this model: even though Google doesn't disclose the model technicals, we can infer them within relatively tight margins based on what we do know. We know they serve the model on TPU 8i, which we have plenty of hard specs for (so we know the key constraints: total memory and bandwidth and compute flops). We can also set a ceiling on the compute c…
We've been really impressed with the performance of ~30B parameter class models and how close they are to the frontier from ~6-12 months ago, which begs the question, are the frontier labs really serving 10T parameter models? Seems unlikely. If these Gemini 3.5 numbers are accurate, then I'd wager GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.7 are a lot smaller than people have speculated, too. It's not that frontier labs can't create a 5T+ p…
I mitigate it by creating dense planning docs for everything and executing iteratively.
Lot's of time wasted on procedure unfortunately
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#509The pelican is a lot : https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl...
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Deepseek had another moment a few weeks ago. V4 isn't far behind the US frontier, and so far its flash variant seems a very reliable coder and costs a pittance.
Deepseek V4 (not flash) trippled in price too by the way (from Deepseek). Get used to this pattern. This is what you get for relying on the generosity of billionaires. Keep offshoring your thinking ability to a machine and let me know how competitive you. Hint, you wont be. There's nothing special about being able to use an LLM.