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Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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The pelican is a lot : https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl...

That pelican looks like it's in Miami for a crypto conference.

It looks like it’s been partying for 60 years based on the wrinkles on its pouch.

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #131

The pelican is a lot : https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl...

funny that when I try the same prompt, gemini generates an image, not an SVG. something is not right.

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #131

The pelican is a lot : https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl...

I feel like it embodies Google's vibe of an uncool guy trying to stay relevant to the youth pretty well.

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #131

The pelican is a lot : https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl...

at a certain point you're gonna need to change your benchmark because this will end up in the model's training set

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #91

Arena.ai: > Gemini 3.5 Flash’s pricing shifts the Pareto frontier in Text. 8 models from GoogleDeepMind dominate the Text Arena Pareto curve where only 4 labs are represented for top performance in their price tiers. https://x.com/arena/status/2056793180998361233

Given how widely varying the amount of tokens each model uses for a given task, "price-per-token" is essentially meaningless when doing this sort of comparison.

Artificial Analysis's "Cost to run" model (aka num_tokens_used * price_per_token) is much better, but even that is likely problematic since it's not clear whether running a bunch of benchmarks maps cleanly to real-world token use.

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #131

The pelican is a lot : https://github.com/simonw/llm-gemini/issues/133#issuecomment... Not a great bicycle though, it forgot the bar between the pedals and the back wheel and weirdly tangled the other bars. Expensive too - that pelican cost 13 cents: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=11&ot=14403&sel=gemini-3.5-fl...

Beats a human by like 10$

So according to Google logic, the value of the pelican is $10-eps. (They applied that reasoning to conversions via adwords)

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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> Create animated SVG of a frog on a boat rowing through jungle river. Single page self contained HTML page with SVG 3.5 Flash: Thinking Medium - 7516 tokens https://gistpreview.github.io/?5c9858fd2057e678b55d563d9bff0... 3.5 Flash: Thinking High - 7280 tokens https://gistpreview.github.io/?1cab3d70064349d08cf5952cdc165... 3.1 Pro - 28,258 tokens https://gistpreview.github.io/?6bf3da2f80487608b9525bce53018... Though…

Here is GPT 5.5 High thinking; I had to add a second follow up prompt "it's not animated though" as the first one was not animated. https://gistpreview.github.io/?557f979c82701862bc26d24f10399...

Here is a GPT 5.5 Extra High with a modified instruction:

> Create animated SVG of a frog on a boat rowing through jungle river. Single page self contained HTML page with SVG. Use the Brave Browser to verifty that the image is indeed animated and looks like a proper rowing frog; iterate until you are satisfied with it.

It was able to discover and fix an animation bug, but the result is still far from perfect: https://gistpreview.github.io/?029df86d03bfe8f87df1e4d9ed2f6...

Re: Gemini 3.5 Flash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need another "Deepseek moment" or else it will become impossible for the regular dude to use AI. It will become something that only big companies can afford.

Deepseek had another moment a few weeks ago. V4 isn't far behind the US frontier, and so far its flash variant seems a very reliable coder and costs a pittance.

Deepseek V4 (not flash) trippled in price too by the way (from Deepseek). Get used to this pattern.

This is what you get for relying on the generosity of billionaires. Keep offshoring your thinking ability to a machine and let me know how competitive you. Hint, you wont be. There's nothing special about being able to use an LLM.

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