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Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#91

GIMP gets the work done. I've never had an issue I couldn't address with its tools, but it's clear the UI was crafted by coders. I'm glad for this approach.

i really don't mind the GIMP UI but then again I used it for a very long time, so perhaps that's why (same for PS, I'm a 1.0 user).

On the flip side, I'd love a darktable that is closer the lightroom's UI, for similar reasons. Somehow, i find it more difficult to get the same speed and flow with darktable.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#92
post #52

GIMP gets the work done. I've never had an issue I couldn't address with its tools, but it's clear the UI was crafted by coders. I'm glad for this approach.

1. GIMP needs a total UX overhaul 2. GIMP needs RAW support, precision support, and a better data backbone 3. GIMP needs a rename. It's both a sex kink term [1] (not to yuck anyone's yums) and a slur term for disabled people [2] 4. Gen AI will probably disrupt all of this anyway. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp

This comment should just be automatically posted in every GIMP thread. Then nobody else needs to post these trite points again and again and again and again.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#93
post #52

GIMP gets the work done. I've never had an issue I couldn't address with its tools, but it's clear the UI was crafted by coders. I'm glad for this approach.

1. GIMP needs a total UX overhaul 2. GIMP needs RAW support, precision support, and a better data backbone 3. GIMP needs a rename. It's both a sex kink term [1] (not to yuck anyone's yums) and a slur term for disabled people [2] 4. Gen AI will probably disrupt all of this anyway. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp

Again, it's about 20 years too late, but the rename thing is absolutely correct and I continue to be gobsmacked by the amount of people here who don't get this, especially as I've seen this place slowly move from actually being about "hacking" to being about "tech and business."

Perception matters; Y'all are so wild for this.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#94
post #53
post #40

I'll continue to say it; this software does not get taken seriously in a useful way to lots of people until it changes the silly name. And to summarize and perhaps avert other discussion; it's not so much about being "non-offensive" as it is simply about being professional.

Good thing then that the most popular version control system on the planet does not have silly, unprofessional name...

I hear that objection and it's a decent one, but that one just isn't as well known. Even as an American, I'm not thrilled that "offensive in America" matters more, but it does.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#95
post #84

GIMP should take a lesson from Blender. Blender used to be the most clunky, unintuitive pieces of open source software. But after a decade and a half of UI development, it's one of the smoothest interfaces you'll ever use.

Blender also had a comparatively large amount of money backing these changes, if I remember correctly, which I expect GIMP does not. I suppose a lesson in that area would be required first. However, the others like Krita might be better positioned for this.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#96
Photoshop's interface is getting worse [1] and everyone hates Adobe, so there's a great opportunity for a tool like GIMP to step up and become the default alternative. It's got a lot of features, it's been around for a long time and has reasonable name recognition (for better or worse).

However, unless they do a Blender and make a sustained effort to improve the UI, understand what people want and how it fits into professional workflows, it's never going to happen.

The attitude seems to be: If you don't like it, fuck you. I think they're genuinely happy with how things are. The inscrutable UI and off-putting name are features not bugs, keeping away the sort of people they don't want.

[1] https://unsung.aresluna.org/photoshops-challenges-with-focus...

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#97
post #92
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. GIMP needs a total UX overhaul 2. GIMP needs RAW support, precision support, and a better data backbone 3. GIMP needs a rename. It's both a sex kink term [1] (not to yuck anyone's yums) and a slur term for disabled people [2] 4. Gen AI will probably disrupt all of this anyway. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp

This comment should just be automatically posted in every GIMP thread. Then nobody else needs to post these trite points again and again and again and again.

Maybe if they're posted again and again, they're real pain points and should be addressed?

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#98
post #93
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. GIMP needs a total UX overhaul 2. GIMP needs RAW support, precision support, and a better data backbone 3. GIMP needs a rename. It's both a sex kink term [1] (not to yuck anyone's yums) and a slur term for disabled people [2] 4. Gen AI will probably disrupt all of this anyway. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp

Again, it's about 20 years too late, but the rename thing is absolutely correct and I continue to be gobsmacked by the amount of people here who don't get this, especially as I've seen this place slowly move from actually being about "hacking" to being about "tech and business." Perception matters; Y'all are so wild for this.

While I agree, and I've been hammering this point as a GIMP user for two decades I think the "GIMP is actually a fine name" are increasingly a minority. Its name makes GIMP hostile to user adoption. Anyone who works in a primarily English-spekaing country knows what it's like to try to use GIMP at work, especially in K-12.

It's not like it was an accident, either. GIMP is a backronym because they wanted to name it after the full-body sex slave suit. They shot themselves in the face with that one.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#99
post #61
post #23

GIMP is the only program that I miss when switched from linux to mac. And GIMP 2.2 was just a perfect for my needs back then

Yes there are but is just not the same, controls are quite non intuitive, I often got glitches on rendering, so overall UX for me is pretty bad

> so overall UX for me is pretty bad

That's just normal gimp

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#100
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment should just be automatically posted in every GIMP thread. Then nobody else needs to post these trite points again and again and again and again.

Maybe if they're posted again and again, they're real pain points and should be addressed?

No obviously not. They are just easy to bring up without ever engaging with the actual material.
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