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The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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post #36

Thank you for pushing me to migrate away from Bitwarden. I've used them for years but I was moving away slowly; now I've moved.

Out of interest, where are you moving?

Apple's passwords app. It's what I use almost everywhere. I use 1password for work but I'd prefer not to mix work and personal life.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#52
post #8

I don't see the problem here. It's a great product and if they want to make money then I don't mind. If it's too expensive, and they hike the price to something ridiculous then I'll vote with my wallet.

I am fine with the price increase, for me its how sneaky they're being about everything. If they sent a few emails about the recent changes I wouldn't care, but it feels like they do not want customers to know which is the last thing I want from a password manager.

Indeed. As I'm sure the new PE-focused CEO knows, the sale of a company includes not just the typical balance sheet items but also intangible assets such as goodwill. Being sneaky about is an attempt to minimize the loss of such intangibles ahead of a sale.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#53
post #25
post #8

I don't see the problem here. It's a great product and if they want to make money then I don't mind. If it's too expensive, and they hike the price to something ridiculous then I'll vote with my wallet.

I’m fine with paying a bit more. I honestly don’t think I even use any of the premium features. I started paying because their founder answered some question I sent years ago and I figured that kinds of support deserved my support. I could still be on the free tier if cost were a concern. With that said, I do find the direction here concerning. Quietly rewriting values, removing promise of free tier, hiking prices wi…

Management and leadership values, character, and integrity matter because it's unwise to assume there is some homogenous allegiance to customers behind the propaganda of putting the customer first. PE will and must squeeze for their margins as is their wont. They have learned it's unwise to draw attention to this.

Time to act accordingly.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL.. you are correct. Funny thing though... the 'Always Free' text is linked to a "/start-free/" action\page. One could argue that they are hedging their bets.

Some other commenter says there are Archive.org cached versions with "Start free" instead of "Always free", so they must have backpedaled on this. Maybe they realized they turned the knob a bit too much towards "hot", increasing the temperature of the proverbial water too noticeably.

I’m not willing to check all the pages on archive.org but for sure a month ago they had a big “Basic Free” tile in the plan comparison. Now it’s just Premium and Family. They are definitely downplaying the ability to use it for free.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260414143334/https://bitwarden...

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#55
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as long as the people who signed up when it said it are granfathered, is it ok then?

Maybe okay on a personal level, but the PE maw eating another great option is just depressing in a more general sense.

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Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#56
post #2

what are some bitwarden alternatives?

For the closest experience, self-host Vaultwarden and keep using the bitwarden clients you're used to. They're GPL-3.0 and aren't going anywhere (and could be forked if there was ever drama).

If you want to fully disassociate from bitwarden, there are vaultwarden compatible 3rd party clients. I like Keyguard.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#57
post #32

After the LastPass fiasco I switched to selfhosting a password manager (bw). Rapidly starting to think even a vibecoded solution may be a better plan relying on commercial options. High risk of don’t roll your own crypto mistakes but realistically that’s not the threat model here anymore for the random individual. It’s online breaches or perhaps a wrench attack not highly skilled crypto adversary. Plus there are prob…

Vibecoding a password manager might be the worst idea ever. You'd be better off with an encrypted Excel sheet. But otherwise, 1Password is great imo and there are other free open source password managers.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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When I first learnt about Bitwarden about 3 years ago, I started hosting Vaultwarden right away. Right now I have one instance for myself and another for my friend's company. Everything runs as smooth as butter. If you can self-host something, do self-host a Vaultwarden instance. If you are (like me) somewhat paranoid about the fact that Vaultwarden hasn't got a proper security audit on its codebase, just run it behind a VPN, it will probably be fine.

I'm not particularly worried about Bitwarden going belly up because it has already have such a well-established open-source replacement. The worst-case scenario is that Bitwarden make the clients incompatible with Vaultwarden, and like how OP already mentioned in the post, somebody in the community will fork them as soon as this happen.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#60

When I first learnt about Bitwarden about 3 years ago, I started hosting Vaultwarden right away. Right now I have one instance for myself and another for my friend's company. Everything runs as smooth as butter. If you can self-host something, do self-host a Vaultwarden instance. If you are (like me) somewhat paranoid about the fact that Vaultwarden hasn't got a proper security audit on its codebase, just run it behi…

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