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The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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post #8

I don't see the problem here. It's a great product and if they want to make money then I don't mind. If it's too expensive, and they hike the price to something ridiculous then I'll vote with my wallet.

I am fine with the price increase, for me its how sneaky they're being about everything. If they sent a few emails about the recent changes I wouldn't care, but it feels like they do not want customers to know which is the last thing I want from a password manager.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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post #8

I don't see the problem here. It's a great product and if they want to make money then I don't mind. If it's too expensive, and they hike the price to something ridiculous then I'll vote with my wallet.

The problem is the rug-pull. You can't go and proudly state "free forever", and then silently back down on that commitment. That is a textbook example for the enshittification cycle... lure users in with grand promises, sell out once you got enough of a following. (Well, technically, you can , but then don't complain about getting called out)

as long as the people who signed up when it said it are granfathered, is it ok then?

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#23
funny, I just changed to bitwarden from 1-password after they had a big price increase (I probably otherwise would have been a lifetime customer if it could have been a leave it and never think about it again for the next 40 years deal).

I'm not too worried, if bitwarden changes their price somebody is going to vibecode a decent enough solution for pennies on the dollar, or there's always apples built-in product.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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post #8

I don't see the problem here. It's a great product and if they want to make money then I don't mind. If it's too expensive, and they hike the price to something ridiculous then I'll vote with my wallet.

I’m fine with paying a bit more. I honestly don’t think I even use any of the premium features. I started paying because their founder answered some question I sent years ago and I figured that kinds of support deserved my support. I could still be on the free tier if cost were a concern.

With that said, I do find the direction here concerning. Quietly rewriting values, removing promise of free tier, hiking prices with almost no notice. I’m concerned that this feels sudden and sneaky. Sneaky behavior erodes trust.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

#27
I don't care about raising prices, I'm worried about the new CEO having a PE mindset. That means Bitwarden will now focus on extracting value while the product stagnates and degrades in quality. Time to jump ship before their security and quality goes down the drain.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the rug-pull. You can't go and proudly state "free forever", and then silently back down on that commitment. That is a textbook example for the enshittification cycle... lure users in with grand promises, sell out once you got enough of a following. (Well, technically, you can , but then don't complain about getting called out)

they haven't backed down, you find the "Always free" claim in the very same webpage OP linked https://bitwarden.com/products/personal/#whats-the-differenc...

You must be getting a different version of that page than me. The free tier is there but there’s no “always free” verbiage. There is “start free” verbiage.

Edit: “always free” was hidden under a collapsed section

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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post #23

funny, I just changed to bitwarden from 1-password after they had a big price increase (I probably otherwise would have been a lifetime customer if it could have been a leave it and never think about it again for the next 40 years deal). I'm not too worried, if bitwarden changes their price somebody is going to vibecode a decent enough solution for pennies on the dollar, or there's always apples built-in product.

A password management system is one thing I definitely don’t want vibe coded.
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