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Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by look_lookatme »

denkmoon wrote: post #615
solenoid0937 wrote: post #591

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Also at a FAANG here. Surprised you don't manage to use $300 in a whole day. It's almost trivial to productively use that much in under an hour. Leadership is not being dumb, at least on this topic. If your token usage is that low, you just aren't using AI that much (even if you think you are.)

I use $30 a day to produce a decent amount of code. Certainly more than we need - thinking about/designing the correct solution/distilling requirements is still the bottleneck. How can you possibly even review $300/day worth of output?

If you build your own reviewer layer/tool it will burn a ton of tokens. Millions of tokens of input.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by thfuran »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #789
rambojohnson wrote: post #711

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Nobody has to believe AI is alive for governments, markets, infrastructure, labor, and energy policy to start orbiting it anyway.

If this starts to happen then heads must roll and data centers must burn Otherwise humanity is over

Well, I have bad news for you.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by somewhatgoated »

doginasuit wrote: post #739
denkmoon wrote: post #643

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What do you use an LLM for then? Or you’re saying just don’t use it at all?

I've used both ChatGPT and Claude, they seem interchangeable for my needs. I only use the web prompt interface except for the rare occasion that it is helpful for it to have the context of my entire project. I think less is more when it comes to LLM interaction, but sometimes they are exactly the right tool for the job.

What do you use it for then?

“right tool for the job” - what job exactly, why so mysterious?

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by somewhatgoated »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #645
0xpgm wrote: post #606

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Things like this make me realize the software engineering 'industry' is not a real industry. There are people who write important software that the world runs on, but they do it outside the 'industry'. A real industry should be responsive to events of nature, or at least the market, not vibes.

I don't know why you think a "real" industry would work in the most idealized way. The media heavily reports on the stupid insane crap of the tech industry, that doesn't mean every other industry is sane they're just not as vocal on Twitter.

Having worked in electronics, mechanics and software engineering the latter is definitely the insane clown show of the three. With the others sure you have some craziness once in a while but you are still being constrained by the real world and solid engineering principles.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by nearbuy »

victoro wrote: post #827
wnmurphy wrote: post #801

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My car drives itself. That's a $18T global market. Also $1T in data center investment makes sense when you realize that companies are racing to create virtual white collar workers. Google spends $9B a year on software engineers.

> Google spends $9B a year on software engineers. Well they are projected to spend $175 - $185B on capex in this year alone most of it for AI buildout. Lets say only 150B of that is for AI. If they can then somehow replace all their software engineers with AI that they then run for free and depreciate over 10 years then they just replaced 9B a year software expense with 15B a year depreciation expense for the next de…

That's assuming they only use it to replace their software engineers and make no money selling AI usage or using it for anything else.

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Post by crooked-v »

darkwater wrote: post #672
lovich wrote: post #101

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I didn’t think just offloading your thinking to AI was AI psychosis. To me AI psychosis is the handful of friends I’ve had who have done things like have a full on mourning session when a model updates because they lost a friend/lover, the one guy who won’t speak to his family directly but has them talk to ChatGPT first and then has ChatGPT generate his response, or the two who are confident that they have discovered…

I'm going directly to the point here: those people have clearly mental issues that would and probably did already show in the past without AI as well.

Would they, though? Current AI stuff is delivering something functionally nonexistent in human history before this: absolute sycophancy, 24/7, on demand, for anyone who wants it. People joke about the wealthy becoming detached from reality because of yes-men, but this is a stage beyond even the capability of the most dedicated brown-noser.

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Post by rglover »

hu3 wrote: post #744
rglover wrote: post #684

People just need to calm down. We're scaring the shit out of ourselves for no reason. Just like, chill man. It's a tool; not the second coming.

It has potential to remodel society though. Cars replaced horses. But AI is poised to replace a large chunk of brain labour. Where's the ceiling?

> Where's the ceiling?

A stable civilization that doesn't devalue human life and well-being to the point of absurdity.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by rglover »

sometimelurker wrote: post #812
rglover wrote: post #684

People just need to calm down. We're scaring the shit out of ourselves for no reason. Just like, chill man. It's a tool; not the second coming.

Its a tool that is built by people who are incentivized to have you addicted to it.

And how.

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Post by [deleted] »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #829
kalkin wrote: post #698

I think there's a reasonable argument that our entire society right now is under AI psychosis: The stock market keeps going up in the face of the indefinite closure of Hormuz. We're investing in datacenters at a scale that only makes sense if AI capabilities continue to advance to the point where they surpass most humans at most white collar tasks, if not reach superintelligence. And what are the possible outcomes? -…

It’s time for humanity to admit that this is the end of the line. We had a good run, some beautiful moments were created for shareholders along the way. Let’s take each other by the hand and walk into the darkness together. So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

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Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by whateveracct »

abracadaniel wrote: post #823
whateveracct wrote: post #731

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> Bust. We've come away with a useful tool but the hundreds of billions of capital expenditure were thrown away on a pipe dream. heh this is the trick. The tech companies will angle for a bailout and they'll benefit from all this speculative data center building. Compute is generally useful.

It’s useful for a while. Hardware has a pretty short useful lifespan. I’ll be curious how the landscape will look in 10 years as it comes time to replace all of these servers. Maybe we’ll extend the lifespan, or usage will continue to grow, or we start shutting down datacenters.

they're already all extending the lifespan for accounting purposes haha
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