AI psychosis is real, but at worst is only premature. AI-denial psychosis is far more pervasive, and will bite far more people in the long run.
I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
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#643I feel in a really weird position where I both really dislike what AI is doing to the experience and practice of writing code, to the point where I want a job doing literally anything else besides using the computer, but also think that these tools are extremely powerful and only getting better. I think Mitchell's point is well taken -- it's possible for these tools to introduce rotten foundations that will only be f…
I've never had more fun coding, but the key is actually still writing the code yourself. The LLM has terrible judgment but an encyclopedic knowledge and the ability to pick out important details in a sea of information. Their worse use is producing code, but somehow that gets all the energy. Being an LLM babysitter is energy draining and you feel less and less in control. No job is worth being miserable doing somethi…
What do you use an LLM for then? Or you’re saying just don’t use it at all?
Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
#644I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…
What I'm seeing is a little eternal September of support tickets about programs that fail to interface the JSON API of a customer of mine. The API is always allucinated. In the best case there are out of place attributes. Often they don't exist at all. I've seen x, y, width, height when we have only top and left. Of course no human read the documentation. Those are probably founders vibe coding a client without the t…
Seeing this too. Customer support tickets are all AI now. The random bolded words, the em dashes, they way where if you KNOW what is actually happening, they are slightly off or just WAY off.
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#645Recently I had a request come through to allow finance analysts to vibe code their apps. During a discussion one of the finance managers let the cat out of the bag. Turns out our CFO had met fellow CFOs at a get together. They talked about how each of them were using AI. Our CFO was lagging behind and felt that we need to "accelerate" our usage of AI. He wants to push it just because he lost a bragging contest.
Things like this make me realize the software engineering 'industry' is not a real industry. There are people who write important software that the world runs on, but they do it outside the 'industry'. A real industry should be responsive to events of nature, or at least the market, not vibes.
I don't know why you think a "real" industry would work in the most idealized way. The media heavily reports on the stupid insane crap of the tech industry, that doesn't mean every other industry is sane they're just not as vocal on Twitter.
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How is a newer AI going to "clean up" dropped databases, compromised computers or leaked personal data? (None of above is theoretical)
I really am surprised that people on a heavy CS themed forum still have trouble grasping this. Imagine the year is 1995, C exists, but some guy out there is working on essentially what modern Python is. He says to you "check out this language, you can just import stuff, and use it and dynamically modify anything at run time". You can probably come up with hundreds of arguments about things that could go wrong, like m…
You can imagine anything you want, but it’s not an argument - you could apply this to anything. “Python was successful after a dubious beginning so NFTs will be successful”
Also, Python does not build or run large language models. It orchestrates C code that does that, and it was probably good enough to do that in 1998.
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#647I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…
I didn’t think just offloading your thinking to AI was AI psychosis. To me AI psychosis is the handful of friends I’ve had who have done things like have a full on mourning session when a model updates because they lost a friend/lover, the one guy who won’t speak to his family directly but has them talk to ChatGPT first and then has ChatGPT generate his response, or the two who are confident that they have discovered…
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How do you have so many crazy friends?
I work in software and don’t come from the upper class sending their kids into faangs for their first job at the tender age of 28. Were kinda predisposed to mental illness as a group, not too surprised that a new source of insanity pushed a few over the edge.
People who don't come from upper class and work in software are predisposed to mental illness?
Am I reading this wrong, or can you explain?
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Or he's just giving a sane take, one that most people in the Bay Area have by now. Lots of tech companies are doing just fine with purely AI written code at this point. Saying that the quality is getting worse in some immeasurable way (while incidents remain the same) is literally unfalsifiable.
This account is another LLM-hype peddler, shilling specifically for Anthropic.
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#650I find talking about X psychosis (or generally using mental illness metaphors) unproductive. It sets up the conversation to be "nothing else to do with this person".
Maybe the problem is you, but you won't figure that out if you think the other person has psychosis.
For example, maybe you need to do a better job explaining, changing your language, simplifying things, being more concrete with consequences.
Or maybe you aren't understanding that the other person has different objectives/ loss function that makes them make seemingly weird conclusions.