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I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by imrozim »

impulser_ wrote: post #48

I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…

Ai gives generic answer for ideas but it's great for code. Pattern matching works for one not the other.

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Post by [deleted] »

Sharlin wrote: post #77
slopinthebag wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI It's so interesting how easy it is to steer the LLM's based on context to arriving at whatever conclusion you engineer out of it. They really are like improv actors, and the first rule of improv is "yes, and". So part of the psychosis is when these people unknowingly steer their LLM into their own conclusions and biases, and then they get mag…

It’s almost as if we haven’t learned anything from Hans the horse, Ouija boards, "facilitated communication", or the countless examples of the folly of surrounding yourself with yes men. The point about improv is spot on.

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Post by shridharxp »

foxfired wrote: post #260

Maybe this is what will turn software engineering into an Engineering field. Right know, prompters are setting up whole company infrastructure. I personally know one. He migrated the companies database to a newer Postgres version. He was successful in the end, but I was gnawing my teeth when he described every step of the process. It sounded like "And then, I poured gasoline on the servers while smoking a cigarette.…

As a junior dev there is this pressure to produce code, add features, and investigate bugs within unprecedented time period. I know whole code base is fking up but i will still add that feature or do a sloppy bug fix without digging deeper.

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Post by eddythompson80 »

humanizersequel wrote: post #351
foxfired wrote: post #260

Maybe this is what will turn software engineering into an Engineering field. Right know, prompters are setting up whole company infrastructure. I personally know one. He migrated the companies database to a newer Postgres version. He was successful in the end, but I was gnawing my teeth when he described every step of the process. It sounded like "And then, I poured gasoline on the servers while smoking a cigarette.…

>He was successful in the end So it sounds like it was fine? Why would this prompt (haha) a change in their approach to things?

Now imagine if you’re one step removed. You don’t see the cigarettes, smell the gasoline, nor see the fire extinguisher gauge. You only see the servers running business-as-usual. Those “engineering” guys are always drama queens, you think. We have processes and fire extinguishers when shit hits the fan, right?

That’s basically every M2, and many if not most M1s, in the last 10 years. So fuck it. Why does any of it matters?

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Post by pmontra »

impulser_ wrote: post #48

I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…

What I'm seeing is a little eternal September of support tickets about programs that fail to interface the JSON API of a customer of mine. The API is always allucinated. In the best case there are out of place attributes. Often they don't exist at all. I've seen x, y, width, height when we have only top and left. Of course no human read the documentation. Those are probably founders vibe coding a client without the technical competence of understanding the API doc on Postman. That is understandable. Unfortunately they don't even have the competence of pointing their AI to Postman in the right way. My custumer assessed that they will always find a way to do a mistake despite any mitigation from our side. What I do is replying to those tickets with line by line comments of the allucinated JSON. I never talk about AIs because I might hurt the pride of some of them and, who knows, some little mistakes could be from real junior developers. Sometimes the tickets are followed up by more puzzled ones, sometimes they fix the problem. Probably they copy and paste my reply to their bots.

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Post by itqwertz »

The real AI psychosis is the expectation of 5x/10x productivity gains akin to the mythical 10x developer during the 2010s JS growth period.

At the end of the day, we can only read so much and take on so much work before we bottleneck ourselves. Cognitive overload leads to burnout. Rumplestiltskin vibes with this AI stuff…

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Post by CamperBob2 »

xstas1 wrote: post #369
CamperBob2 wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this point of view at all. There's a symmetry that is going entirely unappreciated by most of the comments in the thread: just as I can give Claude X,000 words of text to use to describe the code I want it to write, I can also give it some existing code and ask for X,000 words of text explaining what it does. (Call it, oh, I don't know, a "spec," maybe.) The explanation, in turn, can be fed back to…

Code is not spec. There is an implementation spectrum. On one end, you have code that can perform only the behaviour explicitly declared in the spec, but has to be thrown away and rewritten for any new or updated spec. On the other end, you have code that implements or anticipates a wide range of future possible specs including the given one. The AI can operate on any point on this spectrum, but it's not very good at…

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Post by wiseowise »

999900000999 wrote: post #38
nialse wrote: post #8

I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.

This is the new normal. AI will continue to reduce the need for human workers until a Universal Basic Income is established. At the end of the day robots can do the vast vast majority of jobs better and faster. If not now, very soon. I only worry our economic systems won’t keep up

Is this a broken bot account or you’re speed running “regarded Twitter user”?

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Post by leptons »

ycombiredd wrote: post #219
elktown wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thinking that it’s quite a different experience going all Jackson Pollock with AI in your own studio on your own terms, compared to the sorry state of affairs of having 100s of Pollocks throwing paint around wildly within a corp to meet a paint quota.

> 100s of Pollocks throwing paint around wildly within a corp to meet a paint quota I wish I had written that.

I can't think of a single case of any AI content, be it prose or code, where I thought "I wish I had written that". With AI code, it's more like I wish I hadn't let the AI write that.
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