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This post calls out how you can't argue with these people because they say its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!" the top reply is from someone doing exactly that, arguing "but the agents are so fast!"

I was talking with a friend in the early days of AI boom. I argued that over-reliance in AI will create all kinds of catastrophes. The answer I got is "It's game theory. Someone will do it, and you'll be forced to do it, too. It can't be that bad". I mean, yes, logic is useful, but ignorance of risks? Assuming that moving blazingly fast and pulverizing things will result in good eventually? This AI thing is not progr…

reliance, not resilience

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will never happen, for the exact reason that we’ve almost never done that for human output either.

it is required now, or all civilization collapses.

Civilization collapses unless people stop being short-sighted and greedy, trying to cut corners whenever possible?

I know which outcome I'd put my money on.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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"Just use autoresearch and it will fix your app's memory leaks in an hour" is what I was nonchalantly told by someone who has never written a line of code ever.

I guess what I relate to the most is how dismissive people get about real software engineering work.

I may have skill issues, but I am yet to reach the level of autonomous engineering people tend to expect out of AI these days.

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I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.

This is the new normal. AI will continue to reduce the need for human workers until a Universal Basic Income is established. At the end of the day robots can do the vast vast majority of jobs better and faster. If not now, very soon. I only worry our economic systems won’t keep up

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Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…

Correct. I use AI a ton and I'm having more fun every day than I ever did before thanks to it (on average, highs are higher, lows are lower). Your characterization is all very accurate. Thank you.

Here's some other topics I've written on it:

- https://mitchellh.com/writing/my-ai-adoption-journey

- https://mitchellh.com/writing/building-block-economy

- https://mitchellh.com/writing/simdutf-no-libcxx (complex change thanks to AI, shows how I approach it rationally)

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…

> companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI It's so interesting how easy it is to steer the LLM's based on context to arriving at whatever conclusion you engineer out of it. They really are like improv actors, and the first rule of improv is "yes, and". So part of the psychosis is when these people unknowingly steer their LLM into their own conclusions and biases, and then they get mag…

It’s almost as if we haven’t learned anything from Hans the horse, Ouija boards, "facilitated communication", or the countless examples of the folly of surrounding yourself with yes men. The point about improv is spot on.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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This post calls out how you can't argue with these people because they say its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!" the top reply is from someone doing exactly that, arguing "but the agents are so fast!"

Yeah: If the tools aren't good enough and fast enough to fix the bugs before release, what makes anyone think they'll be able to so easily catch up afterwards?

Maybe they're assuming that doubling the code-base/features is more beneficial versus the damage from doubling the number of bugs... Well, at least for this quarter's news to investors...

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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My very large employer has always been glacially slow on modernization and tech adoption. It may now, oddly enough, become a competitive advantage.

Literally the plot of Battlestar Galactica! Life imitates art indeed...

who is the Starbuck of AI?

plot twist: it's Starbuck

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.

> When [...] all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards

and we all live in a green utopia of flying cars and peace upon the world.

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