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Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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This article fails to mention GrapheneOS. The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation). Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

GrapheneOS requires a Google Pixel (currently) though. That's why they omitted it I imagine

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Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have rage-quit apple for a C2 and the muscle memory still kicks in after months. The ergonomy of Sailfish is sometimes bizarre, the little top left dot for navigation for example. Still it does everything I need, just with a very bad camera. Let's hope the 2026 will fix that.

Oh but you don't usually need to care for the dot itself so much as it's just an indicator that you can do a middle swipe left/right to move between stacked pages.

Ah yes, that explains it all! I'm still learning how to unlearn.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Xiaomi uses a proprietary charging protocol, I believe it is called Hypercharge. It also requires a proprietary cable with an extra pin/chip.

You can charge it just fine with regular usb-c charger. So not a problem.

At very limited charging speeds though. That goes against the USB-PD mandate.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Many years later and I'm still bitter that the tech press laughed Windows Phone out of the room straight to its demise. Yes it had very little developer support but at some point things were looking up. It was just the butt of too many jokes from influential people. A third ecosystem right now would have been amazing

Eh, Microsoft got bored of developing their own browser and just pushes Chromium on their users now. Probably they would have just turned Windows Phones into another Android too.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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This article fails to mention GrapheneOS. The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation). Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

GrapheneOS doesn't fit the criteria of the list.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#preinstalled-devices

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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I moved to a Fairphone 6 with /e/OS a few weeks ago. I can do everything I need to, everything I want to, and with more control over my digital footprint and what data is being collected about me. I've completely moved off Google services. The OS experience is pretty impressive for not being made by an evil megacorp. The hardware is fairly midrange, but midrange today is last year's top end, and unless you're some ex…

/e/ OS lied about the security and how "degoogled" the phone really is because it sends data to Google for MicroG
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