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Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by ttkari »

pavlov wrote: post #10

Jolla still exists: https://jolla.com/ They develop Sailfish, a non-Google Linux-based mobile OS that can apparently run Android apps decently in a sandbox.

They are also less than 2 months away from the first deliveries of the Jolla Phone 2026, a new SailfishOS device they have designed and built from scratch. Over the past years the official Sailfish experience has largely been relying on Sony Open Device program - a co-operation which hasn't always been very smooth for the customers.

I have been daily driving SFOS on a Sony Xperia 10 III for the past 3 years and it works well for me. I think the 10 III is the current "peak Sailfish" at least among the officially supported devices but this should change once the new phones roll out in early July. For new orders of the 2026 phone they are currently aiming for delivery in September in the supported markets (EU, UK, Norway and Switzerland).

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by gib444 »

johnsea wrote: post #14

This article fails to mention GrapheneOS. The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation). Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

GrapheneOS requires a Google Pixel (currently) though. That's why they omitted it I imagine

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by surgical_fire »

retired wrote: post #4
DeathArrow wrote: post #2

I usually buy either Xiaomi or Oppo phones and I am pretty happy.

Are Xiaomi phones still legal in the EU with their proprietary chargers? All phones need to have USB-C and USB-PD now.

The wife has a Xiaomi phone, we live in EU.

It was sold normally as any other cellphone.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by skc »

Many years later and I'm still bitter that the tech press laughed Windows Phone out of the room straight to its demise. Yes it had very little developer support but at some point things were looking up. It was just the butt of too many jokes from influential people.

A third ecosystem right now would have been amazing

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by The_President »

skc wrote: post #24

Many years later and I'm still bitter that the tech press laughed Windows Phone out of the room straight to its demise. Yes it had very little developer support but at some point things were looking up. It was just the butt of too many jokes from influential people. A third ecosystem right now would have been amazing

The Windows phone didn't make it due to Microsoft failing to compete, not the press.

Not many tech products exite me less than the concept of a Microsoft Windows 365 Copilot Cortana phone.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by hulitu »

johnsea wrote: post #14

This article fails to mention GrapheneOS. The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation). Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

> This article fails to mention GrapheneOS.

From Wikipedia: "GrapheneOS[b] (/ˈɡræfiːn.oʊˈɛs/) is a free and open-source, privacy- and security-focused, Android-based operating system"

So still Android.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Post by bobim »

ttkari wrote: post #21
pavlov wrote: post #10

Jolla still exists: https://jolla.com/ They develop Sailfish, a non-Google Linux-based mobile OS that can apparently run Android apps decently in a sandbox.

They are also less than 2 months away from the first deliveries of the Jolla Phone 2026, a new SailfishOS device they have designed and built from scratch. Over the past years the official Sailfish experience has largely been relying on Sony Open Device program - a co-operation which hasn't always been very smooth for the customers. I have been daily driving SFOS on a Sony Xperia 10 III for the past 3 years and it wo…

I have rage-quit apple for a C2 and the muscle memory still kicks in after months. The ergonomy of Sailfish is sometimes bizarre, the little top left dot for navigation for example. Still it does everything I need, just with a very bad camera. Let's hope the 2026 will fix that.
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