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Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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I moved to a Fairphone 6 with /e/OS a few weeks ago. I can do everything I need to, everything I want to, and with more control over my digital footprint and what data is being collected about me. I've completely moved off Google services.

The OS experience is pretty impressive for not being made by an evil megacorp. The hardware is fairly midrange, but midrange today is last year's top end, and unless you're some expert photographer or needing phone VR or whatever, it's a great, normal smartphone experience.

I'm donating to the open source devs who make my apps, and they respond when I ask for useful features instead of always enshittifying it. For the corpo apps, it pulls from Google Play.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which proprietary charger? I always had Xiaomi phones and they always use USB ports.

Xiaomi uses a proprietary charging protocol, I believe it is called Hypercharge. It also requires a proprietary cable with an extra pin/chip.

Looks like they opened the protocol, https://new.c.mi.com/global/post/1895204

Also, it's only for fast charging, you can use any other charger or wire without an issue.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

#13
I use a Librem5 Linux phone. With the default PureOS operating system.

Enjoy your freedom, break free from Google and Apple.

Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

See also the discussion on this post: https://mastodon.social/@janvlug/116504044251287290

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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This article fails to mention GrapheneOS.

The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation).

Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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I really want to try one of these one day: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/promoted/ But I haven't dared yet because I kind of expect it will not be able to replace my current phone.

Ubuntu Touch was amazing, way ahead of Android and iOS when it came out, the touch gestures were so much better than what was available.

But then it's just maintained by very few people nowadays and half abandoned.

You can buy a used Pixel 3a if you want to toy around with it, they cost nothing.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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So which one has the biggest chance to be Android/iOS alternative? Many many years ago, smarphone users had these choices: Symbian, BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, PalmOS... what else?

Windows phone still had the best ux of any smartphone, I just wish the ecosystem was there. To this day nothing even comes close to smart tiles.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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I looked at Punkt.

They keep saying "If you don’t pay for the product, you are the product". Okay, all fine and well.

But what will my phone still actually be able to do if / when I stop my subscription? Not a single clear answer besides "[…] gradual feature deactivation, and ultimately reverting to a device running AOSP".

Doesn’t really inspire confidence.

Re: Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

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post #9
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which proprietary charger? I always had Xiaomi phones and they always use USB ports.

Xiaomi uses a proprietary charging protocol, I believe it is called Hypercharge. It also requires a proprietary cable with an extra pin/chip.

You can charge it just fine with regular usb-c charger. So not a problem.
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