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Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
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Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honest question: what do you mean?
You pay inflated prices for the car and then they still steal and sell your data. This isn't hard to understand, same thing smart TV mfg do.
$100k is in Canadian dollars? I just added almost every accessory/package and option to the the 2026 GR Sport Plug-in Hybrid RAV4, and it came out to $55,821. If there were options that were nearly identical, I only added the most expensive one. So I only added one hammock ($340) and one of the Pelican Dayventure Backpack Cooler ($301). This includes the dog first-aid kit, and the human first-aid kit. Maybe all the options will come through this link:
https://www.toyota.com/configurator/build/step/summary/year/...
...maybe there is a lot of dealer markup in your area?
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#53> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB. The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their o…
>if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota Source? Can bluetooth devices do that without the user's knowledge?
I assume that the original article statement is referring to connecting to CarPlay/Android Auto wirelessly, not simply connecting via Bluetooth for a speaker-type setup. But I do not know that this is the case. Certainly, I would assume all privacy bets are off if you connect CarPlay/Android Auto in any manner.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#54Modern cars are like Smart TVs.
Soon: ads on your HUD while you wait in traffic.
This has already happened: https://www.motorbiscuit.com/jeep-dodge-owners-mad-infotainm...
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also thought about it. It’s possible, but requires enabling hotspot on the phone. Without it, it will not share internet via BT.
The author probably means CarPlay and Android Auto. In wireless mode they share the phone's internet connection. The adapter linked in the article is a CarPlay adapter, not plain BT.
Seems like this way of using CarPlay isn’t documented. Bluetooth is used for discovery and WiFi/USB for CarPlay communication but not for providing car and internet access. Using users’ phone data without notice could be noticeable by users as well…
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#56If you get into enough trouble they'll get all your phone data and cell tower pings or your passenger's.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#57If you live in the EU and bought the car there, the GDPR still applies, even if data is sent to Toyota in Japan. You have the full right to view and ask for deletion.
You'd think people would be doing that already. Has anyone posted details?
Can you skirt the GDPR by making it hard to discover who you need to ask?
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#58I wonder if insurance would refuse to pay out in the event of an accident due to this modification?
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#59If you are wary of all the smart features in your next car purchase, consider buying a bicycle. We do not have to entertain the creeping invasion of our privacy
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you clarify? Does it feed it bullshit data? Because android auto expects car telemetry data which it streams to Google's servers. Which is a big no-no for me for obvious reasons.
It doesn't stop Android Auto from doing whatever with the car data, but it's sandboxed to have no more default privileges than a regular app, so it can be denied access to your phone's data by default (apps, contacts, etc.). Wireless AA will only work if you grant it extra privileges; wired AA does not need them. You can also "firewall" AA via something like TrackerControl, this would let you block connections to eg.…
Fair enough. Streaming my location and an OBD dump to Google whenever I'm driving is a non-starter for me, so I'll stick with the aux cord!