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Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB. The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their o…

What about if it's just paired as an audio device rather than through an app?

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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The 2024 Ford Maverick has a single fuse for the telematics unit that you can remove without throwing a code or an error. No idea if this remained true after the 2025-2026 refresh, but worth knowing. https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/telematics-f...

Older Toyotas also had a DCM fuse, and this was the easiest way to get rid of telemetry. I am not sure if partially disassembling the dash and physically removing the DCM is now necessary.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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post #34

The 2024 Ford Maverick has a single fuse for the telematics unit that you can remove without throwing a code or an error. No idea if this remained true after the 2025-2026 refresh, but worth knowing. https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/telematics-f...

Older Toyotas also had a DCM fuse, and this was the easiest way to get rid of telemetry. I am not sure if partially disassembling the dash and physically removing the DCM is now necessary.

There's still a fuse for the DCM even in this car but:

- It has an internal battery and will keep running for quite a while after pulling the fuse. This is a safety feature in case you get in a crash that disconnects the 12V battery

- It will break your in-car microphone as discussed. Repairing that requires opening up the dash

- That won't do anything for disconnecting the GPS antenna

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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You just need to cap the connectors with a terminator.

It might easier to find the cable than disassemble the car to get to the terminals.

Usually, the whole antenna is behind the rear-view mirror between the glass and mirror. Often glued together

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Maybe two metal pins through the GPS and the cellular antenna coaxial cables would do the trick?

You would be surprised how leaky RF can be and how hard to completely suppress. There is a reason things like anechoic chambers and test labs are very expensive.

Just hold it wrong. That should do the trick.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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I use android auto through grapheneos thankfully! this is crazy!

Can you clarify? Does it feed it bullshit data? Because android auto expects car telemetry data which it streams to Google's servers. Which is a big no-no for me for obvious reasons.

It doesn't stop Android Auto from doing whatever with the car data, but it's sandboxed to have no more default privileges than a regular app, so it can be denied access to your phone's data by default (apps, contacts, etc.). Wireless AA will only work if you grant it extra privileges; wired AA does not need them.

You can also "firewall" AA via something like TrackerControl, this would let you block connections to eg. Google Analytics servers without denying network access altogether (which would likely cause AA to stop working). I've only used AA with short-term rentals so I didn't spend too much time exploring these options.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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There's going to be a lot of this going on in the future. RabbitLabs CAN Commander go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I though this was just a crazy commenter, but here: https://rabbit-labs.com/product/cancommander/ Crazy commenter, tell us a little about this. Can I use it on any Can bus?

From what I understand the CAN traffic on my vehicle is encrypted. Clearly this does not apply to all of the traffic, as I can fetch some OBD2 data with a generic dongle.
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