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Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Maybe two metal pins through the GPS and the cellular antenna coaxial cables would do the trick?

You just need to cap the connectors with a terminator.

It might easier to find the cable than disassemble the car to get to the terminals.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB. The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their o…

They are cagey because they get nearly $100k upfront with crazy interest rates, and then they make a ton of money through their spyware.

Honest question: what do you mean?

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Maybe two metal pins through the GPS and the cellular antenna coaxial cables would do the trick?

You would be surprised how leaky RF can be and how hard to completely suppress. There is a reason things like anechoic chambers and test labs are very expensive.

Leaky - possibly, but we are dealing with the real world where you have plenty of background noise. The cell tower will likely fail to receive the signal.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB. The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their o…

In a perfect world they wouldn't collect it either, but I'd rather Apple have it than the car manufacturer (or rather, only Apple vs both Apple and the car manufacturer)

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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There's going to be a lot of this going on in the future. RabbitLabs CAN Commander go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I though this was just a crazy commenter, but here:

https://rabbit-labs.com/product/cancommander/

Crazy commenter, tell us a little about this. Can I use it on any Can bus?

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB. The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their o…

I use android auto through grapheneos thankfully! this is crazy!

Can you clarify? Does it feed it bullshit data? Because android auto expects car telemetry data which it streams to Google's servers. Which is a big no-no for me for obvious reasons.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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What is the suspected method of Bluetooth communication? Afaik phones do not share their internet blindly to Bluetooth devices.

Also thought about it. It’s possible, but requires enabling hotspot on the phone. Without it, it will not share internet via BT.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are cagey because they get nearly $100k upfront with crazy interest rates, and then they make a ton of money through their spyware.

Honest question: what do you mean?

You pay inflated prices for the car and then they still steal and sell your data. This isn't hard to understand, same thing smart TV mfg do.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: what do you mean?

You pay inflated prices for the car and then they still steal and sell your data. This isn't hard to understand, same thing smart TV mfg do.

I think you mean "subsidized" instead of "inflated".

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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What is the suspected method of Bluetooth communication? Afaik phones do not share their internet blindly to Bluetooth devices.

Bluetooth PAN seems to work pretty seamlessly once you've paired your phone and set it up. It's possible some kind of "seamless hotspot" functionality is remotely activating PAN on a paired device.
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