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EU Parliamentary Research Service calls VPNs "a loophole that needs closing"

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Post by alibarber »

nirui wrote: post #109

In case people no longer remember, when China started to require websites to register for a license before be allowed to operate, it was for "protecting the children" too. This simple policy then goes on to silence most individual publisher(/self-media) and consolidated the industry into the hands of the few, with no opportunity left for smaller entrepreneurs. This is arguably much worse than allowing children to wat…

> The same way you fine drivers for traffic violation, but not the road.

Eh - my new car has an EU mandated speed limiter in it that takes over the cruise control. It uses a combination of GPS and vision to determine what speed limit to apply. Only slammed the breaks on on the motorway to drop from 120 to 80 KM/h erroneously 4 times in one journey last week.

Much like the oft maligned Google PM that releases/deprecates another chat product to get their promotion, some commissioner somewhere in Brussels managed to make the world a better place with this too.

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Post by pronik »

wafflemaker wrote: post #377
joe_mamba wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ursula von den Leyen has been pushing internet blocks in Germany for the sake of the children since 2009. Which is when "Zensursula" nickname has been coined. And then in a completely democratic mannner, Europeans said "that's who we want leading us".

>And then in a completely democratic mannner, Europeans said "that's who we want leading us". No, it wasn't. She was chosen by a group of country leaders during a closed doors voting. If it's democratic at all, it's very tangential.

I've taken that comment to be very sarcastic, but maybe it wasn't.

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Post by googlehater »

u8080 wrote: post #145
nirui wrote: post #109

In case people no longer remember, when China started to require websites to register for a license before be allowed to operate, it was for "protecting the children" too. This simple policy then goes on to silence most individual publisher(/self-media) and consolidated the industry into the hands of the few, with no opportunity left for smaller entrepreneurs. This is arguably much worse than allowing children to wat…

Just a recap how it happened in Russia: 1. First, year ~2015 legal framework was created under disguise of banning pirated media(specifically torrents.ru)(legislative push). State-wide DNS ban introduced. Very easy to circumvent via quering 8.8.8.8 2. Then, having legal basis, govt included extra stuff in banned list(casinos, terrorist orgs, etc)(executive push). IP bans introduced, applied very carefully. 3. Legal e…

i noticed your profile has a lot of great info onthis. where did you learn?

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Post by hnlmorg »

palata wrote: post #400
hnlmorg wrote: post #365

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Again, you’re talking about things in a Boolean state. Our kids have access to social media, but we also know what they have access to because we check their phones periodically. This is a far better approach than an “all or nothing” approach because we are giving the kids the freedom to learn how to use these tools maturely. But without removing any safety nets for if/when our kids (or any other kids in their social…

> Again, you’re talking about things in a Boolean state. I am not, so either you don't understand my opinion, or you manipulate it because it's convenient. I am not, AT ALL , saying that we should make bikes illegal to kids. But some things make sense to me: we should not sell cigarettes or alcohol to kids. "Go ahead my son, you're 13, you should make your own mistakes: try smoking for a month like your friends, and…

The social media problem isn’t going to be solved by treating it like cigarettes. It’s solved by teaching kids how moderate their use of it. And that only comes with practice. So banning it for children and then expecting them to use it responsibly once they have access is unrealistic.

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Post by joe_mamba »

neonstatic wrote: post #355
joe_mamba wrote: post #339

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>I don't understand why porn is such a problem and an excuse. Because porn is the most taboo things in public, even if a lot of people use it at home. Nobody will come and defend liberal porn access because then everyone will call you a gooner or a pedo. It'll probably be the end of your political debate. Which means porn access can be weaponized without any political opposition. It's the perfect scapegoat to remove…

Yes, I agree, my point was more about why is sex such a taboo, when there are things out there, that are genuinely worse. But I guess it's a bit too wide of a topic to have a productive discussion.

You misunderstood. Sex is not taboo, admitting to consuming porn to the public is.

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Post by comonoid »

u8080 wrote: post #417
villgax wrote: post #411

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dont give them ideas man, with LLMs & image/video creation models, I'm this close to not caring about pubic internet now for non-work/news/payments

This is not idea, this is reality in 2026 (Tbf only for cellular internet)

True.

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Post by dplesh »

EU people are the poorest people of our world. Living in false pretense of being "free". The fancy pot on this fancy stove took a long time to reach boiling point. So long that the little frog inside did not even notice that it is the main course. Sometimes its too late to jump out of this pot.

Feels like its state vs man nowdays, worldwide. Don't let them mislead you.

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Post by rayiner »

wafflemaker wrote: post #377
joe_mamba wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ursula von den Leyen has been pushing internet blocks in Germany for the sake of the children since 2009. Which is when "Zensursula" nickname has been coined. And then in a completely democratic mannner, Europeans said "that's who we want leading us".

>And then in a completely democratic mannner, Europeans said "that's who we want leading us". No, it wasn't. She was chosen by a group of country leaders during a closed doors voting. If it's democratic at all, it's very tangential.

There's an election in the chain. Voters elected the national MPs who then selected the national PMs, who then selected von den Leyen. Democratic-ish.

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Post by f1shy »

deaux wrote: post #171
palata wrote: post #161

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Are you calling me a corporate apologist? For one, corporations want less regulation. "Being a hacker" does not mean "being stuck in the 80s", IMO. If TooBigTech cryptographically controls everything, it becomes harder to hack. Are you aware that the biggest restriction against jailbreaking stuff is that it was made super illegal... because it helps corporations?

> Are you calling me a corporate apologist? For one, corporations want less regulation Ah yes, so that's why Meta et al are the main ones behind pushes for more "think of the children" ID verification/attestation regulations.

In my experience they DO want more regulation. Regulation that helps them. The automobile’s industry was lobbying for years to have all kinds of things mandatory. They invented lots of standards and pseudo standards. At the end they shoot themselves in the foot.

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Post by victorbjorklund »

tekla wrote: post #392
victorbjorklund wrote: post #374

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You must be an American? Only Americans act like they get to define what the rest of the world calls places. It’s Gulf of Mexico. Only a country of idiots would call it gulf of America.

Its so funny to see this comment considering the dozens of geogrphic features around the world where countries have wildly different names for them. Do you think Korea refers to the Sea of Japan by that name?

Do you see anyone making Koreans call it Sea of Japan? Americans can call it whatever they want as long as Americans never try to lecture others what it is called. Deal?
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