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Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by snapcaster »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

I wish people (nerds like us) would use better language. It's not overpriced, because a product is more than a pile of chips and tech specs. Do you realize you're implicitly assuming CPU speed == product quality and how untrue that is?

It provides incredible value for its price (hours of fun per $) when compared to basically any other form of entertainment

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by doidwockwocj »

SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #119
parasubvert wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally speaking, that's incorrect. That's like saying "I don't like cars, and don't see the value in cars, therefore the market for cars is fraudulent". In AI, buyers are getting what they want. The demand is real. YOU might not value what they're getting, but that doesn't make it fraudulent. This is why people misunderstand why AI isn't a bubble. A bubble is asset prices rising due to speculative demand far beyon…

> This is actual, real, shipping physical product: not vapor, not something that will disappear, not something that will "crash" suddenly. Tulips were real shipping physical products. Railways were real. Housing was real. Whether or not the demand is speculative is largely disconnected from the actual subject of the bubble. > NVIDIA is legitimately forecasting demand of $1 trillion in their chips+memory by the end of…

Christ, I could kiss you right now.

Thank you for being one much needed voice of reason in this hellscape of AI buffoons that’s become of HN.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by metadat »

snapcaster wrote: post #181
metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

I wish people (nerds like us) would use better language. It's not overpriced, because a product is more than a pile of chips and tech specs. Do you realize you're implicitly assuming CPU speed == product quality and how untrue that is? It provides incredible value for its price (hours of fun per $) when compared to basically any other form of entertainment

I like this perspective. I was thinking in terms of enjoyment I derived from switch 1 vs steam deck. For me, the Deck has already unlocked way more fun!

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by [deleted] »

FunHearing3443 wrote: post #142
nsxwolf wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone really find the Switch 2 to be underpowered? Is the Steam Deck really that much more powerful, and is it worth the extra 100 grams of weight? Metroid Prime 4 looks amazing, and you can choose 4K@60 or 1080p@120. I don't really care about generated frames or whatever AI magic the console is doing to pull it off, it looks great.

The switch 2 is definitively more powerful than the steam deck and also supports DLSS.

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Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by 9x39 »

lightedman wrote: post #178
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #156

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It's an odd criticism to begin with. The Switch is a toy, it's not a PC. Apart from a few shitty PC ports, it runs its games just fine, so in what sense is it really "underpowered"? Would Super Mario Bros. Wonder be a better game if the Switch 2 could push twice as many polygons?

"The Switch is a toy, it's not a PC. Apart from a few shitty PC ports, it runs its games just fine, so in what sense is it really "underpowered"?" Well this comment down below brings it about really quickly: "Switch 2 has better FPS for Switch 1 games. Like BotW stops having terrible FPS drops in certain scenarios." If you need a newer-gen piece of hardware to run an older-gen FIRST PARTY title at acceptable speeds w…

Switch also tried to live in the portable console niche, above handhelds, and this was several years before Steam Deck. SOC development favors the later devices, obviously.

BoTW was still generally acceptable to people: https://www.metacritic.com/game/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-o...

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by GorbachevyChase »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Adults aren’t the target market. I pay a premium because I know there are content standards and at least the big titles aren’t going to bombard my kids with inappropriate content.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by elfly »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Newer, more expensive console runs better than older, cheaper one.

Insane.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by rchaud »

ymolodtsov wrote: post #44
hdaf1298 wrote: post #37

That is another victim of all hardware being hoovered up by AI fraudsters. People need to go to the classic class warfare methods: - Do not buy anything new, especially graphics cards. Buy on Ebay but avoid bidding wars. - Use adblockers and do not pay for any company's services if the company promotes AI. - If it is true that Nintendo is lobbying against AI in Japan, still buy Nintendo of course. The AI people think…

I assume by "AI fraudsters" you mean companies whose product are in extremely high demand by everyone.

What's high in demand is supply infrastructure, i.e. GPUs and RAM, purchased with borrowed money. Actual end-user customer demand is an entirely separate question. Nobody is selling AI services at anywhere near what it costs to supply. Nintendo doesn't run on VC money so it can't subsidize its products the way Anthropic and co. can.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by 9x39 »

maccard wrote: post #173
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an odd criticism to begin with. The Switch is a toy, it's not a PC. Apart from a few shitty PC ports, it runs its games just fine, so in what sense is it really "underpowered"? Would Super Mario Bros. Wonder be a better game if the Switch 2 could push twice as many polygons?

Compared to Xbox and PlayStation it’s vastly underpowered. They’re not “shitty PC ports”, they’re ports that people tried, likely managed to one platform and then when they tried on switch 2 realised just how far behind it is.

How well do Pokopia and Mario Galaxy play on PS and Xbox?

Performance is orthogonal to the Switch aims, which are about those tightly curated Nintendo titles.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by gentleman11 »

schnitzelstoat wrote: post #2

The price increases aren't massive though, I think I'll still wait for a mainline Mario game.

Based on their switch 1 track record, a new mario will run at 5fps on native nintendo hardware on the final boss (eg, bowsers fury)
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