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Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by tejohnso »

darkxanthos wrote: post #109
tejohnso wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wonder if you could indicate why you're waiting for a Switch 2 vs say a Steam Deck? Or do you also have a deck? I ask because I'm planning to gift one or the other. The recipient already has a Switch 1, so I thought it would be pretty lame to give a Switch 2 rather than "upgrading" to a deck. In my mind, being able to play any steam game, on a device with highly praised controls, is the better upgrade, not the Switch…

If someone has a switch, gifting a steam deck isn't an upgrade necessarily. You're giving them a platform that can't play most of the games they probably love. Not because of specs of course. A switch 2 is actually an upgrade. Almost all of their current games will run better and they'll be able to play more demanding switch 2 only games as they continue to trickle out.

I should have mentioned current game play is skewed more toward steam on pc than switch. I'm definitely not getting the impression that the switch games are loved.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by chaostheory »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Yeah, the emulator support is nice

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by AussieWog93 »

pjc50 wrote: post #52
ymolodtsov wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume by "AI fraudsters" you mean companies whose product are in extremely high demand by everyone.

Just because something is heavily in demand doesn't mean it's not fraudulent.

That is true philosophically but not in the case of AI. I use Claude heavily to write code. My mother in law uses it to query legal documents and standards. My wife uses it as a roided up Google.

It's here, it's real and it works.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by Larrikin »

pjmlp wrote: post #98
harimau777 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, a significant part of the enjoyment in gaming for me is the community aspects of talking about the latest popular game. Unfortunately, that means that while games on the previous cycle's console are often still good, they innately lack one of the biggest parts of gaming as a hobby for me.

I grew up in a time when we got one or two games a year, if we wanted more games, piracy with double deck tapes, or programming our own games, were the only options available. Thus it is hard to feel the need to be talking about the latest popular game.

Did you also walk fifteen miles up hill both ways to school? Times change, but even back in the Nintendo Power days people would definitely flock to the home of whoever got Super Mario World 2 or Super Smash Bros first because there was no way to play those online and everyone would then talk about the games.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by hx8 »

hectdev wrote: post #124
SwtCyber wrote: post #94

The Switch 2 price bump isn't too surprising, but increasing the price of the old Switch models this late is pretty wild...

If it is a matter of cost of manufacturing and shipping going up, doesn't that make sense? Can't speak to the digital services going up, however.

Historically last generation hardware is sold at steep discounts compared to original MSRP. The insanity is we live in a world where manufacturing 9 year old hardware has increasing manufacturing and shipping cost, where this was not the case. Another layer of insanity is that Nintendo did the analysis and decided it's going to make sales at this increased price.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by mcphage »

temporallobe wrote: post #130

I bought a Switch 2 about 6 months ago. My biggest disappointment with it so far has been the lack of first-party games.

If you haven't tried Pokemon Pokopia, it's really excellent. A great mixture of Pokemon, Minecraft, and Animal Crossing. Largely developed by the same team at Koei Techmo that did Dragon Quest Builders 2, and it has a lot of the same structure and feeling of that game, but replaces the combat with building environments to attract different Pokemon. It's been a system seller for the Switch 2, and deservedly so.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by nsxwolf »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Does anyone really find the Switch 2 to be underpowered? Is the Steam Deck really that much more powerful, and is it worth the extra 100 grams of weight?

Metroid Prime 4 looks amazing, and you can choose 4K@60 or 1080p@120. I don't really care about generated frames or whatever AI magic the console is doing to pull it off, it looks great.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by reddalo »

harimau777 wrote: post #91
pjmlp wrote: post #45

Switch 1 still has more games than I have time to play, plenty of them around to get.

FWIW, a significant part of the enjoyment in gaming for me is the community aspects of talking about the latest popular game. Unfortunately, that means that while games on the previous cycle's console are often still good, they innately lack one of the biggest parts of gaming as a hobby for me.

You gotta learn how to become a "patient gamer". It only leads to a cheaper, better bug-free experience.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by JeremyNT »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

> Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was stronger but with the Switch 2 the hardware bill of materials is actually more costly relative to previous products like the Switch 1.

They know that the combination of extremely high quality first party exclusives combined with hugely popular IP is going to move units even if they're "overpriced" as devices to play any other games.

When my daughter's Switch 1 died, I had the choice between the 2 and the Steam Deck, and I chose the Deck. It's got a ton of games and the cheap Steam back catalog is great, but... no Mario? No Zelda?

I won't pretend I wasn't tempted to own both.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by someguyiguess »

nsxwolf wrote: post #137
metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Does anyone really find the Switch 2 to be underpowered? Is the Steam Deck really that much more powerful, and is it worth the extra 100 grams of weight? Metroid Prime 4 looks amazing, and you can choose 4K@60 or 1080p@120. I don't really care about generated frames or whatever AI magic the console is doing to pull it off, it looks great.

The steam deck is 4 year old hardware. The Switch 2 came out last summer. So if they're about on-par performance-wise, doesn't that prove OP's point?
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