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Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by epicide »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Given that everybody, including Valve, are in the same boat, I'm not sure Nintendo is that much worse off for this.

It's true that fewer people will be buying fewer consoles as a whole, but gaming is a pretty competitive market. I'm sure Nintendo will take a hit regardless, but probably no more than the likes of Sony, MS, Valve, etc.

Like any gold rush, the only people who win are the ones selling the shovels (in this case, Nvidia).

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by vjk800 »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

The only reason to buy Nintendo hardware is so that you can play Nintendo's exclusive games. In the past, I felt that it was worth it. In the recent years, there haven't been many good Nintendo releases, definitely not enough to justify buying Switch 2.

I feel that Nintendo should really become just a software company. All consoles are converging towards using more or less similar PC hardware anyway, so having your own hardware platform doesn't seem very useful anymore.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by maccard »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #156
nsxwolf wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone really find the Switch 2 to be underpowered? Is the Steam Deck really that much more powerful, and is it worth the extra 100 grams of weight? Metroid Prime 4 looks amazing, and you can choose 4K@60 or 1080p@120. I don't really care about generated frames or whatever AI magic the console is doing to pull it off, it looks great.

It's an odd criticism to begin with. The Switch is a toy, it's not a PC. Apart from a few shitty PC ports, it runs its games just fine, so in what sense is it really "underpowered"? Would Super Mario Bros. Wonder be a better game if the Switch 2 could push twice as many polygons?

Compared to Xbox and PlayStation it’s vastly underpowered.

They’re not “shitty PC ports”, they’re ports that people tried, likely managed to one platform and then when they tried on switch 2 realised just how far behind it is.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by ozbonus »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits?

Yes! Famously so, in fact. Look up Gupei Yokoi and "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology".

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by tapoxi »

metadat wrote: post #112

I bought a Steam Deck earlier this year and haven’t touched my Switch since. Nintendo hardware and games were already obscenely overpriced imo, so this is essentially a nail in the coffin for folks who were already questioning Nintendo’s prices and value proposition. Does Nintendo intentionally make its hardware really underpowered and cheap in terms of chips to juice profits? In the past this was more the case, but…

Steam Deck starts at almost the same price - $549. The base model was discontinued. The Switch 2 has superior performance, an inferior screen, and comes with the dock + detachable controllers.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by pjmlp »

nsxwolf wrote: post #161
pjmlp wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in a time when we got one or two games a year, if we wanted more games, piracy with double deck tapes, or programming our own games, were the only options available. Thus it is hard to feel the need to be talking about the latest popular game.

I grew up in the same era, but I never stopped playing video games, so my relationship with them continuously evolved.

Me neither, I just don't suffer from FOMO regarding latest titles.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by pjmlp »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #157
pjmlp wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in a time when we got one or two games a year, if we wanted more games, piracy with double deck tapes, or programming our own games, were the only options available. Thus it is hard to feel the need to be talking about the latest popular game.

But you're also describing the social aspects of gaming, meeting with friends to swap games to copy, trading the few games we had, and so on.

Yes, and none of that requires latest gen devices.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by lightedman »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #156
nsxwolf wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone really find the Switch 2 to be underpowered? Is the Steam Deck really that much more powerful, and is it worth the extra 100 grams of weight? Metroid Prime 4 looks amazing, and you can choose 4K@60 or 1080p@120. I don't really care about generated frames or whatever AI magic the console is doing to pull it off, it looks great.

It's an odd criticism to begin with. The Switch is a toy, it's not a PC. Apart from a few shitty PC ports, it runs its games just fine, so in what sense is it really "underpowered"? Would Super Mario Bros. Wonder be a better game if the Switch 2 could push twice as many polygons?

"The Switch is a toy, it's not a PC. Apart from a few shitty PC ports, it runs its games just fine, so in what sense is it really "underpowered"?"

Well this comment down below brings it about really quickly:

"Switch 2 has better FPS for Switch 1 games. Like BotW stops having terrible FPS drops in certain scenarios."

If you need a newer-gen piece of hardware to run an older-gen FIRST PARTY title at acceptable speeds without issues then I'm going to say you are ABSOLUTELY and PURPOSEFULLY selling underpowered hardware (and Nintendo has been doing it since the days of the NES. So many first-party titles with slowdowns because the hardware was not up to the task.)

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by nsxwolf »

pjmlp wrote: post #176
nsxwolf wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in the same era, but I never stopped playing video games, so my relationship with them continuously evolved.

Me neither, I just don't suffer from FOMO regarding latest titles.

I don’t have enough time to play anything, but I do occasionally like to get something on release day so I can enjoy being part of the moment.

Re: Nintendo announces price increases for Nintendo Switch 2

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Post by sowbug »

merpkz wrote: post #48
thrownawaysz wrote: post #46

I wish I have the means to travel to Japan right now because prices never been cheaper, especially food. Feels like missing out on a great opportunity

What a wild statement, how much you have to eat in Japan to offset the airline ticket prices?

Vacations aren't about net profitability. You can visit Japan and enjoy reasonable prices when you're there. Or you can go to many other popular destinations and be repeatedly insulted by $600 hotel rooms, $30 burgers, and $15 bottled beers.
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