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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by mostafas »

dw_arthur wrote: post #112
minimaxir wrote: post #7

> First, we’re doubling Claude Code’s five-hour rate limits for Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans. The fine-print-omission appears to be that weekly limits are not doubled. The progressive 5-hour rate limit shrinking was indeed an efficiency blocker that finally convinced me to cancel, but being only able to get 4 full sessions a week as opposed to 8 doesn't compell me to resubscribe.

For my hobbyist purposes Deepseek v4 Flash has replaced Claude Code because I was also sick of hitting 5 hour limits with Claude. Right now, the only thing I miss from Claude is multi-modal image support. I can work around no image support since I can use v4 Flash all day and spend around $1. I am aware Deepseek is currently discounting their API at 75% off so I may try out another provider once the discount is gone…

The 75% discount only applies to Deepseek v4 Pro. Flash will stay the same price after the discount ends. It's remarkably cheap for what it delivers.

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by super256 »

charlieflowers wrote: post #161
cyclopeanutopia wrote: post #145

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What are you talking about There is no doubt that it's not a serious idea.

Help me understand why not? I know solar power generation in space, and "beaming" the power back, was a naive idea. But this would actually use the power up there, mostly for training, but also for inference. That claim seems reasonable. I have zero knowledge of the economics of launching and maintaining satellites though.

In space you get bit flips fairly quickly when using very small transistors. You would have to run stuff on fairly old hardware, which probably makes the whole thing economically inefficient for serious "computation in space".

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by skeledrew »

flumpcakes wrote: post #319
skeledrew wrote: post #35

Oh. Just as I'm in the process of migrating to Pi+Qwen (local). This was probably going to be my last month on the Pro sub as I'm seriously fed up with the limits and degradation that started weeks after I signed up. Let's see how this shakes out.

How does Pi+Qwen (local) compare to Anthropic's offerings? Surely you're not getting the same breadth and quality of output using Qwen? How is the performance?

So far I've only really set things up and done some benchmarking (a set of capability prompts created and evaluated by Claude, HumanEval and MBPP; haven't completed the latter 2) on several local models (Qwen 1.7b, 4b, 9b & 35b a3b; 1.7b got 6/8 correct at ~14.7 tok/s on the capability set, to 35b for 8/8 at ~4.5 tok/s; can share full results if interested), and setup llama-swap so I can dynamically select them. I'll need to decide which of my projects I'll be really testing them on, with the awareness that I'll have to be even more involved.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by solenoid0937 »

stavros wrote: post #350
solenoid0937 wrote: post #349

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Sorry, were you told you'd be given a specific number of tokens when you subscribed?

Yes? Weren't you? Did you think you were buying a token lottery, where you'd have a billion tokens one day and zero the next?

How many tokens exactly did they guarantee you when you signed up? I don't recall ever seeing a hard number. It was always pretty clear it was flex pricing.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by selicos »

floatrock wrote: post #168
brokencode wrote: post #44

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Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

We all remember 2 weeks ago when SpaceX bought $10B of Cursor services. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855293 Since Cursor often relies on Claude models, some of those services will flow back to their own datacenter compute. Especially if there's, lets call it, "customer demand loadbalancing optimization agreements" that makes those Cursor services prioritize Claude models using the app keys that get load-bal…

If the question involves Elon and fraud or pumping numbers, then the answer is yes.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by aetherspawn »

dgfl wrote: post #230
Sammi wrote: post #192

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Anyone who has googled just once to ask if datacenters in space make any sense, has found out they don't because they can't get rid of heat. That leaves only two kinds of people left who are still talking excitedly about datacenters in space: The uninformed and the grifters.

The existence of starlink proves that this is false. Look at most current pitches, they don’t talk about GW-class monsters anymore. There’s absolutely nothing stopping a 20-30kW satellite bus the size of starlink (or I guess up to 100kW? once starship is available - it’s all about payload fairing diameter) from hosting ~1 rack of compute and antennas. The economics may or may not make sense, we’ll have to see. There’…

I don’t think Sun synchronous orbit is possible except in LEO.

LEO is high risk and star link satellites deorbit or burn up all the time. Not good from a capex POV on graphics cards.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by stavros »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #354
stavros wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes? Weren't you? Did you think you were buying a token lottery, where you'd have a billion tokens one day and zero the next?

How many tokens exactly did they guarantee you when you signed up? I don't recall ever seeing a hard number. It was always pretty clear it was flex pricing.

They guaranteed as many as they were offering when I signed up. I tried it for a month, it worked for me, I signed up for a year. Then they reduced the limits.

If you think that's fine, I have access to an all-you-can eat buffet to sell you for only $2000 a year, it's a steal.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by cavisne »

Thrymr wrote: post #233
brokencode wrote: post #44

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Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

Sure, if "pretty smart" means overinvest in capital spending on an dirty datacenter powered by unpermitted gas generators that you don't even need anymore because of lack of demand for your product, so you lease it to a competitor (presumably at a huge loss). I am not sure that "major source of revenue" as a datacenter provider is the kind of growth opportunity that IPO investors are looking for.

Definitely not going to be leasing it at a loss. GPU's are sold out, Anthropic will be paying a significant premium.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by cavisne »

losvedir wrote: post #213

> 300 megawatts of new capacity (over 220,000 NVIDIA GPUs) The scale is just mindboggling here. Are there any blog posts or anything discussing what kind of infrastructure is used for even just the inference side (nevermind the training) for SotA models like Opus? I would have thought it might be secret, but given that you can actually run the models yourself on AWS Bedrock doesn't that give an indication?

Probably the best source https://jax-ml.github.io/scaling-book/

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by runako »

brokencode wrote: post #44
arian_ wrote: post #14

Anthropic renting out the data center Elon built for Grok is the kind of plot twist you can't make up.

Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

The financials for a Musk company do not, and will not, affect investor sentiment in the slightest.

Investors in the SpaceX IPO are buying a call option on Musk.

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