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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by charlieflowers »

cyclopeanutopia wrote: post #145
Sevii wrote: post #76

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Anthropic needs any compute they can get. So if Elon wants to build orbital data centers Anthropic would be happy to run models on it. There isn't really any doubt Elon can build orbital data centers the question is if they are economical compared to earth based.

What are you talking about There is no doubt that it's not a serious idea.

Help me understand why not? I know solar power generation in space, and "beaming" the power back, was a naive idea. But this would actually use the power up there, mostly for training, but also for inference.

That claim seems reasonable. I have zero knowledge of the economics of launching and maintaining satellites though.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by everfrustrated »

stuaxo wrote: post #154
everfrustrated wrote: post #142

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You realize natural gas is one of the more environmentally friendly methods of generating power. Lots of work went into moving to natural gas generation to improve the environmental impact for electricity generation. This is nothing like burning coal.

This natural gas burning is suited too close to where people live.

You do understand natural gas burns very clean? People burn it in their houses to cook with it!

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by trollbridge »

aurareturn wrote: post #137
toephu2 wrote: post #131

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> funded by Middle East non-democratic governments What's the problem here exactly? Are you insinuating any non-democratic government is bad and evil and only democratic governments are the correct and right way to govern? sort of like: "there is only one true prophet, and it's the one I follow, and all the others are false!"

No, I didn't say that. My point is that Anthropic cares a lot about "democracy" but will buy compute from a data center mostly funded by non-democratic nations.

Who do you think is the sources of funding for Anthropic's lead investors?

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by mark_l_watson »

The politics and economics of Musk throwing some support towards Anthropic is interesting (samma is probably pissed).

But, if you will pardon a little rant: I hate the idea of subscription inference plans and also 'dumping' by subsidizing non-profitable products. Inferencing should be pay as you go and dumping illegal.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by quinncom »

bottlepalm wrote: post #93
quinncom wrote: post #20

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One of the reasons I refuse to use xAI’s models is because of the outsized negative environmental impacts of the methane gas turbines. Now I have to avoid Claude too.

If you can make up an inconsequential arbitrary rationalization to not use a service then I’m sure you can do the opposite to convince yourself to use it. That’s what virtue signaling is I guess - the action you’re taking is pointless, the only point is to tell everyone you’re taking it therefore feed the narrative forward? The entire economy runs off gas turbines though this is the thing you boycott?

Obviously I’m virtue signaling, and I hope instilling a feeling of shame in people who support businesses that contribute to climate change.

But more than that, the emissions generated by the Colossus data centers are far worse than typical combined-cycle gas plants or data centers that buy renewable: these turbines emit NOx, fine particulates, carbon monoxide, and formaldehyde into a population-dense area.

I thought people knew about this already. Post from last year: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/12/xai-data-center/

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by richwater »

akarlsten wrote: post #113
skeledrew wrote: post #90

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I acknowledge there's an issue here, but I don't think it makes sense to label it "pollution". When something is polluted it generally means using it can lead to some form of harm, directly or indirectly. I fail to see how confusing satellites for stars stars causes harm, per se (though of course it would suck to be an astronomer).

Starlink constellations will lead to a world where there is absolutely nowhere you can go where you cant see man-made junk. No truly pristine wilderness anywhere without being able to see formations of glowing dots helping "off-grid" idiots stream Netflix. It's spiritually harmful if nothing else. Also who said pollution has to be harmful? Light pollution is a thing, and this is the same class of problem. Why dont th…

You argument seems to hinge on Starlink not being a massive improvement to how non-broadband connected folk get internet. Your crusade against "offgrid" idiots is intentionally dense as it ignores the millions of people who will be able to access the internet.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by floatrock »

brokencode wrote: post #44
arian_ wrote: post #14

Anthropic renting out the data center Elon built for Grok is the kind of plot twist you can't make up.

Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

We all remember 2 weeks ago when SpaceX bought $10B of Cursor services. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855293

Since Cursor often relies on Claude models, some of those services will flow back to their own datacenter compute. Especially if there's, lets call it, "customer demand loadbalancing optimization agreements" that makes those Cursor services prioritize Claude models using the app keys that get load-balanced onto the SpaceX datacenter.

Did SpaceX just spend $10B to rent out its own datacenter, juicing their recurring revenue metrics with their own AI services investment?

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by consumer451 »

w4yai wrote: post #109
consumer451 wrote: post #37

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I would think that stomaching Musk would be the hard part. Just goes to show how compute-constrained Anthropic is at this time. He literally did a Nazi salute on stage, twice! Check the video, and tell me what you see. edit: https://giphy.com/gifs/elon-musk-nazi-salute-8W0ItVv7T1kRdwb...

If it is a Nazi salute, it's a real bad one !

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

https://old.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/1i7w4nz/comparison_of...

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by richwater »

SilverElfin wrote: post #60
richwater wrote: post #16

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Of course it’s a serious argument. Anyone using telescopes or doing Astro photography now sees Starlink satellites leaving trails all over the place. And that’s with a small number compared to the 1 million satellites they are proposing. It’s a public resource that a private company is stealing from all of us.

You don't seem to understand image stacking technology or the deployment procedures of starlink satellites.

> It’s a public resource that a private company is stealing from all of us

Just because the government can't accomplish what private industry is doing doesn't mean it's "stealing".

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