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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by breakingcups »

I could have used this news 2 days ago. I've been trying out Claude Code for a few days and kept running into the limit, so I wanted to upgrade to Max. In the upgrade-flow they hit me with an identity verification through Persona. No problem, I thought, I'll just cancel the upgrade. Nope, all access to Claude Code on the old plan was now also blocked and can't be unblocked without completing Identity Verification, which I'll never do. What a bad experience.

On the plus-side, it told me how much cheaper Deepseek is and that it's on parity for reverse engineering work.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by airspresso »

losvedir wrote: post #213

> 300 megawatts of new capacity (over 220,000 NVIDIA GPUs) The scale is just mindboggling here. Are there any blog posts or anything discussing what kind of infrastructure is used for even just the inference side (nevermind the training) for SotA models like Opus? I would have thought it might be secret, but given that you can actually run the models yourself on AWS Bedrock doesn't that give an indication?

> but given that you can actually run the models yourself on AWS Bedrock

That's not exactly how it works. Anthropic are hosting their models in AWS Bedrock as a managed service. Customers call those LLMs just like calling any other API. There's no visibility into what kind of AWS infrastructure is serving that API request.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by Thrymr »

brokencode wrote: post #44
arian_ wrote: post #14

Anthropic renting out the data center Elon built for Grok is the kind of plot twist you can't make up.

Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

Sure, if "pretty smart" means overinvest in capital spending on an dirty datacenter powered by unpermitted gas generators that you don't even need anymore because of lack of demand for your product, so you lease it to a competitor (presumably at a huge loss). I am not sure that "major source of revenue" as a datacenter provider is the kind of growth opportunity that IPO investors are looking for.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by airspresso »

gpugreg wrote: post #25

> As part of this agreement, we have also expressed interest in partnering with SpaceX to develop multiple gigawatts of orbital AI compute capacity. Anthropic is either taking this space business more serious than the general public, or posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute.

> posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute

This 100%

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by Thrymr »

BrianGragg wrote: post #186
Thrymr wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

xAI removed its illegal gas turbines and obtained permits for the others only after being sued by the Southern Environmental Law Center. They then built another unpermitted site (Colossus 2) across the state line in Mississippi, and they are being sued again. [0] "The company began operations at its first site, Colossus 1, in June of 2024 and used as many as 35 unpermitted gas turbines to power the facility. Despite…

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Public power utilities get permits for their operations. xAI tried to get around permitting regulations and environmental laws by claiming the generators were temporary, got sued [0], and even the Trump administration's EPA ruled against them [1]. They are also now trying to do it again in another state with Colossus 2 [2].

[0] https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/18/xai-is-facing-a-lawsuit-fo...

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk...

[2] https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by exabrial »

This is where I see the economy of AI going:

* Inference becomes cheap

- speciality accelerators hit the market and race to the bottom begins

* Training remains expensive

- This works out for Anthropic/OpenAI, they go into the business of training

* Models become rental units or purchasable assets, you run on inference hardware

- Rent or own inference hardware

* Or you pay someone to do all of the above for you, at a premium

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by kibibu »

mcmcmc wrote: post #211
dzhiurgis wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scott Manley, I’d say one of the top pop space youtubers say otherwise. If anything it’s easier in space. On earth most complexity in datacenter is cooling. In space you just radiate it away. And SpaceX already proven they can launch sort of datacenters 10k times by launching Starlink (up to 20KW of solar each IIRC). FWIW Musk should support Bernie Sanders more. Putting moratoriums on datacenters would make space bas…

“YouTuber” is an extremely poor qualification for a supposedly trusted source

Let's hear what Big Money Salvia has to say about all this

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by small_model »

Sammi wrote: post #192
PufPufPuf wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understand it, the problem is cooling. There isn't any medium to take away the heat, so the only option is to slowly radiate it away.

Anyone who has googled just once to ask if datacenters in space make any sense, has found out they don't because they can't get rid of heat. That leaves only two kinds of people left who are still talking excitedly about datacenters in space: The uninformed and the grifters.

SpaceX have presented on this and it's fairly straightforward and they already do it with starlink satellites, just at a larger scale. Sound like you are the uniformed one (or an EDS victim)

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by dmlittle »

dgfl wrote: post #230
Sammi wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who has googled just once to ask if datacenters in space make any sense, has found out they don't because they can't get rid of heat. That leaves only two kinds of people left who are still talking excitedly about datacenters in space: The uninformed and the grifters.

The existence of starlink proves that this is false. Look at most current pitches, they don’t talk about GW-class monsters anymore. There’s absolutely nothing stopping a 20-30kW satellite bus the size of starlink (or I guess up to 100kW? once starship is available - it’s all about payload fairing diameter) from hosting ~1 rack of compute and antennas. The economics may or may not make sense, we’ll have to see. There’…

It's worth noting that GPUs have a much higher failure rate than traditional CPUs. Over 10x the failure rate due thermal stress. The amount of heat generated is very different. You can't really replace a GPU in a satellite (at least today?) which would place most of these satellites as space debris in a ~5 year horizon.
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