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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

How would a data centre poison the water? They don’t produce any chemicals or do anything.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by AlexCoventry »

htrp wrote: post #2

>Higher usage limits >The following three changes—all effective today—are aimed at improving the experience of using Claude for our most dedicated customers. >First, we’re doubling Claude Code’s five-hour rate limits for Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans. >Second, we’re removing the peak hours limit reduction on Claude Code for Pro and Max accounts. >Third, we’re raising our API rate limits considerably…

I don't think this is giving up. He's getting inside information on how Claude works, and a huge stream of Claude usage data. This will all inform future grok development, IMO.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by BrianGragg »

brokencode wrote: post #44
arian_ wrote: post #14

Anthropic renting out the data center Elon built for Grok is the kind of plot twist you can't make up.

Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

I see it more of lets make money off the hardware we are not using anymore.

From Elon on X: ... After that, I was ok leasing Colossus 1 to Anthropic, as SpaceXAI had already moved training to Colossus 2.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2052069691372478511

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by BrianGragg »

aurareturn wrote: post #141
VortexLain wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>we'll even buy compute from China if we can sell Anthropic models there. Considering that Anthropic mass-bans Chinese users accounts based on using VPN (used to circumvent the Chinese firewall) and then demands an ID or a residence permit of a country where Claude officially works to ensure that the user doesn't live in China, seems unlikely.

If the Chinese government tells Anthropic they can freely sell Claude in China, Dario is suddenly going to be kissing China's ass instead of saying how we can't let China win the AGI race for democracy and western values.

After they told the US government no on a very large contract. I find that hard to believe.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by robotresearcher »

skeledrew wrote: post #90
josefresco wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very much a valid argument. SpaceX has been working on this issue for years. https://theconversation.com/a-million-new-spacex-satellites-... FTA: "SpaceX has done a lot of engineering work to make its Starlink satellites fainter. They are still too bright for research astronomy, but thanks to new coatings, their brightness has not increased dramatically even as SpaceX has launched larger and larger satellites."

I acknowledge there's an issue here, but I don't think it makes sense to label it "pollution". When something is polluted it generally means using it can lead to some form of harm, directly or indirectly. I fail to see how confusing satellites for stars stars causes harm, per se (though of course it would suck to be an astronomer).

You don’t see the harm, but it would suck to be an astronomer?

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by BrianGragg »

Thrymr wrote: post #155
boldlybold wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Illegal is a strong term here. While the wiki link you included indicates there might be some permitting nuances, I've seen nothing claiming the power is "illegal."

xAI removed its illegal gas turbines and obtained permits for the others only after being sued by the Southern Environmental Law Center. They then built another unpermitted site (Colossus 2) across the state line in Mississippi, and they are being sued again. [0] "The company began operations at its first site, Colossus 1, in June of 2024 and used as many as 35 unpermitted gas turbines to power the facility. Despite…

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by ETH_start »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

Not every allegation that appears in print is true. One should be very skeptical about these kinds of allegations, especially when there are deep-pocketed corporations involved who can be sued or pressured to settle in the face of sufficiently "plausible and persistent" (to borrow Hazlitt's term) claims of harm done by their operations.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by PufPufPuf »

charlieflowers wrote: post #161
cyclopeanutopia wrote: post #145

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What are you talking about There is no doubt that it's not a serious idea.

Help me understand why not? I know solar power generation in space, and "beaming" the power back, was a naive idea. But this would actually use the power up there, mostly for training, but also for inference. That claim seems reasonable. I have zero knowledge of the economics of launching and maintaining satellites though.

As I understand it, the problem is cooling. There isn't any medium to take away the heat, so the only option is to slowly radiate it away.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by nerdsniper »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #138
cedws wrote: post #111

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It was pretty obvious to me that the merger was a way of quietly shutting xAI down in a way that keeps investors happy. With it also being used as a vehicle to offload the Twitter debt to the public, he certainly has good accountants.

Yep - and in the meantime it's an asset of SpaceX to boost their IPO price, as long as this is done before people realize that xAI is apparently becoming a datacenter company not an AI one. Then you've got SpaceX buying 1200 cybertrucks from Tesla, so it's serving as failure laundering vehicle for all his endeavors.

> it's serving as failure laundering vehicle for all his endeavors.

Which would be fine to me if Tesla wasn't a publicly traded company and SpaceX wasn't about to IPO. Whereas juicing companies in a way that affects the open stock market feels very inappropriate.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by throwa356262 »

fancyfredbot wrote: post #132
throwa356262 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a technical standpoint xAI is basically Gemini team B who were give A+ salaries to join the company. But even then, I suspect their hands were tied in some areas because Elon had some expectations from his AI.

Did Google outbid Elon for team A? Or A team just don't like Elon?

It's an internal jokes since very few high profile Deepmind engineers accepted his offer despite some serious cash being thrown at them.

Meta engineers on the other hand, couldn't wait to jump ship. But that only reinforces the B team theory.

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