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iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by thdr »

the_other wrote: post #168
lode wrote: post #138

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> The same is true in a physical card wallet. Not at all. In my physical wallet, those identical looking cards have different names on them, ie. and for joint accounts. I can also mark them up with a marker, or request a different picture from some banks. In iOS I need to remember that the one ending with 0044 is mine, and 0073 is for our joint account. I have no way to add an alias or distinguish them otherwise. Thi…

My banks provide different colour options for their cards. All my digital cards differ, even from the same bank. The alternate colours helps within the banks/ apps as well as within Wallet, so it's not just an iOS "workaround". I agree, it would be nice if Apple added stickers, but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out. Exceptions include transport and concert tickets. Most of the time this doesn't cause pro…

> but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out.

But it is exactly as bad as they describe it. My bank doesn't provide color options for my cards, and there is no way to distinguish my two cards aside from the displayed four digits.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by yandie »

jbverschoor wrote: post #123
Terretta wrote: post #82

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The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

If you have multiple cards with the same bank you'll need to remember the last 4 digits. It's total bs

My Amex cards show up like the physical ones with the actual physical design elements like colors etc… so maybe it’s bank dependent?

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by avemg »

amluto wrote: post #160
ncr100 wrote: post #115

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How so?

Open the Wallet app (the double-tap-power view doesn’t work). Ask to delete one card at a time (which requires two taps which a short mandatory wait between them due to the animation). Tap again to confirm. Then wait an obnoxiously long time for the too-cute animation to complete. Then repeat for the next card, while wondering why there is no bulk remove operation of any sort.

Yep! Extremely annoying when traveling with my family of four!

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by waterproof »

conradev wrote: post #172
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

The design is skeuomorphic, modeled after a standard bifold wallet which gives your physical cards the same treatment. My current wallet doesn't give me any affordances: https://grifiti.com/products/grifiti-band-joes-3-25-x-1-25-i...

your current wallet lets you add labels or stickers to your cards.

classic Apple situation - look, this is super clean, intuitive software! but if you want a reasonable level of flexibility that you would expect elsewhere, you are SOL.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by dpoloncsak »

thdr wrote: post #181
the_other wrote: post #168

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My banks provide different colour options for their cards. All my digital cards differ, even from the same bank. The alternate colours helps within the banks/ apps as well as within Wallet, so it's not just an iOS "workaround". I agree, it would be nice if Apple added stickers, but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out. Exceptions include transport and concert tickets. Most of the time this doesn't cause pro…

> but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out. But it is exactly as bad as they describe it. My bank doesn't provide color options for my cards, and there is no way to distinguish my two cards aside from the displayed four digits.

...so you keep the one you primarily use in the front of your card slot in your wallet, and the one you don't use often behind your other cards.

Apple wallet solves this in a similar way, letting you arrange the order

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by pivo »

mh- wrote: post #137
toast0 wrote: post #108

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> The same is true in a physical card wallet. You can markup a card in a physical wallet. And then originally identical cards become visually distinguishable.

Riffing on your comment: would be neat if Apple let you add a sticker to the corner of each card.

Yes, exactly. Or some simple text to overlay at the top of the card, it's a very easy problem to solve as far as I can tell.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by jonathanstrange »

alt227 wrote: post #150
gruez wrote: post #9

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For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate. On the other hand a screenshot/pdf is "good enough" that they didn't bother fixing it.

> For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate Apple uses every opportunity to try to increase developer and user lock in. This was no exception. I see this new move as begrudgingly opening the doors to all as not enough people were signing with Apple Developer Certificates.

Unfortunately, they're not even good at it. Setting up a custom CI chain today as a brand-new member of the Apple Developer program, I found out that they have at least 9 different certificates to generate with no explanation which one you need on the page, and after I had generated one, downloaded it, and imported it into the keychain, the certificate was invalid. I additionally had to go to some cryptic looking page[1] and manually download the "right" in intermediary certificates.

[1] https://www.apple.com/certificateauthority/

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by Dependance »

noio wrote: post #177

15 years ago, a friend of mine built an app to do this — "Pass Creator" — then Apple yanked the functionality. He paid me to create the icon for it, which was my first paid graphic design job: https://www.noio.nl/2012/10/pass-creator-app-icon/ Thanks Paul.. good times!

Went through your site, and amazed to see you worked on Kingdom ? Loved that game a ton.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by AlOwain »

noio wrote: post #177

15 years ago, a friend of mine built an app to do this — "Pass Creator" — then Apple yanked the functionality. He paid me to create the icon for it, which was my first paid graphic design job: https://www.noio.nl/2012/10/pass-creator-app-icon/ Thanks Paul.. good times!

If not for anything, the icon looks good.

Although it is not out yet, Garbage Country's art direction looks good :) wishlisted.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by thdr »

dpoloncsak wrote: post #185
thdr wrote: post #181

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> but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out. But it is exactly as bad as they describe it. My bank doesn't provide color options for my cards, and there is no way to distinguish my two cards aside from the displayed four digits.

...so you keep the one you primarily use in the front of your card slot in your wallet, and the one you don't use often behind your other cards. Apple wallet solves this in a similar way, letting you arrange the order

Yes, I can try to memorize the order of the cards. What a lousy workaround, and absolutely no reason to defend poor UI design.
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