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iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by aingisni_del »

kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

Spot on re: App UI designed and engineered by 20y/o in SF. That is actually accurate, because that was (is?) the team that engineered it. I interviewed with them sometime ago when Apple Pay had just come out, and that entire Wallet/Passbook team seemed really toxic and ... very mediocre. Not surprising that this feature hasn't seen much improvement over time.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by sheept »

azinman2 wrote: post #135
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What there really should be is a wallet equivalent of an ics file. It doesn't need to support everything, static images would be enough for most use cases. Advanced features could then require the current model. But that would require collaboration, and standards, which seem to have gone away as smart phones came in.

Apple has .pkpass

As alluded to in the ancestor comment, signing the .pkpass requires an Apple developer account.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by [deleted] »

azinman2 wrote: post #135
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What there really should be is a wallet equivalent of an ics file. It doesn't need to support everything, static images would be enough for most use cases. Advanced features could then require the current model. But that would require collaboration, and standards, which seem to have gone away as smart phones came in.

Apple has .pkpass

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by Dries007 »

Terretta wrote: post #82
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

Except that personalized cards have been a thing since I've had a card in 2014...

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by piva00 »

ghaff wrote: post #80
piva00 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wallet is already plenty useful to me. Ticketing is a great use-case for it, I have flight tickets, concerts/events tickets, airport bus tickets, if it keeps expanding to integrate with even more tickets (my local public transportation system, the express train to the airport, more venues) it will only become more useful. Edit: also, all of my cards, I haven't used a physical card at POS terminals in years, they only…

And, meanwhile, I want to have a physical card/printout I can use if something goes wrong with phone/watch. Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the apps on my electronic devices but I also carry paper copies whenever I can because electronic stuff breaks in various ways.

Me too, I wouldn't only rely on electronic devices for something as essential as paying. I still carry my cards in my physical wallet with me, it's just that I haven't had the need to use them in a very long time.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by alt227 »

Good to see Apple catching up with Google finally.

Google wallet has had the abillity to scan tickets and create custom passes for years.

This article frames it like Apple are coming to save the day from lazy developers, but in reality its Apple who have been sleeping on this while other competing services have offered it for some time now.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by patapong »

Terretta wrote: post #82
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

So? Computers are the dream machine, we should strive to do better than physical reality, not mimic it.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by vtbassmatt »

latexr wrote: post #102

Finally!¹ My biggest use case is not actually creating passes for services which don’t provide them, but being able to create passes without having to install a freaking app. FlixBus (I might be misremembering) is the only service I ever found which lets you pay with Apple Pay and add a pass to Wallet all from Safari. For airlines and other bus/train services I always have to install the app to do both. Maybe this wi…

It feels wrong to say something nice about Ticketmaster, but you don't need their app to add concert tickets to Apple Wallet (at least at all the venues where I live). I strictly use their website because I don't trust them.

I've never tried to pay with Apple Pay on ticketmaster.com, but I assume I could do that as well.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by alt227 »

gruez wrote: post #9
toenail wrote: post #2

Makes you wonder why this wasn't always possible.. I go to lots of events that have qr codes on their tickets, this will be useful

For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate. On the other hand a screenshot/pdf is "good enough" that they didn't bother fixing it.

> For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate

Apple uses every opportunity to try to increase developer and user lock in. This was no exception. I see this new move as begrudgingly opening the doors to all as not enough people were signing with Apple Developer Certificates.

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