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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by fooqux »

kelnos wrote: post #524
notenlish wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thermals hopefully won't be a problem, since the new Intel chips are quite efficient.

Looking at Intel's specs, it seems my current CPU has a base of 28W, boost up to 64W. The high end part Framework is selling for the 13 Pro has a base of 25W, boost to 80W. So seems basically the same on the low end, with the new part boosting quite a bit higher. Presumably you get more perf per watt on the new CPU, but still.

I don't know what CPU you currently have but don't sleep on performance increases. If this new chip can do the same amount of work for less cycles, that's less time spent making heat.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by pxc »

somewhatjustin wrote: post #36
rglover wrote: post #7

Has anyone made the jump from a Mac to Framework as a daily driver? This is the first model to get my attention as a possible candidate for a full switch to Linux.

I was a Mac guy for 12+ years and switched to Linux on desktop + Framework about 2 years ago. It takes time. On many dimensions, the Framework running Linux is laughably worse. I never thought about battery life while the lid is closed until my Framework. That being said, running Linux is very fun and can be productive if you choose a well-supported distribution and desktop environment. I landed on KDE Plasma and Fed…

> I never thought about battery life while the lid is closed until my Framework.

In the days of S3, I never thought about it either. Ironically it's on my Mac that I have to remember to hibernate if I won't use my laptop for a week or whatever, because it'll die if I don't. It just happens to be that it was on a Mac on which I first tried "modern standby" features.

Anyway I feel you. This big battery life improvement is what has convinced me my next laptop can be a Framework.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by gepardi »

rglover wrote: post #7

Has anyone made the jump from a Mac to Framework as a daily driver? This is the first model to get my attention as a possible candidate for a full switch to Linux.

Yeah, last June. I switched from an M1 Air to a 13”, 7640U.

I’m running Fedora. Other than some h265 and heic codec/file format issues, (I’ve had to convert videos and photos to more open codec/format), it’s been a great machine.

I miss the battery life of the M1 but I enjoy the comfort of knowing I can upgrade storage or fix anything I want when needed.

Other than personal web browsing, I do web development and tinkering with music creation (Bitwig).

I don’t think I’ll ever buy another Apple machine. I want to use devices that are repairable, support those companies, and use software that is open source or multi-platform without continuing subscriptions.

Now that I’m personally invested in Linux, I’d like to contribute to desktop app projects that are open source since now, I am also a user.

I have gradually been moving my digital life away from Google and Apple/iCloud.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by gepardi »

somewhatjustin wrote: post #36
rglover wrote: post #7

Has anyone made the jump from a Mac to Framework as a daily driver? This is the first model to get my attention as a possible candidate for a full switch to Linux.

I was a Mac guy for 12+ years and switched to Linux on desktop + Framework about 2 years ago. It takes time. On many dimensions, the Framework running Linux is laughably worse. I never thought about battery life while the lid is closed until my Framework. That being said, running Linux is very fun and can be productive if you choose a well-supported distribution and desktop environment. I landed on KDE Plasma and Fed…

I’ve been on Fedora Gnome but wonder if I’d like Plasma. I know that I can try it on a USB stick and I’ve also read that other people have made sure to install their operating system and their files on different partitions to make distro switching easier.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

Lammy wrote: post #475
afavour wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re imagining a “greatest aspiration” that doesn’t exist. macOS has an iCloud login button in the Settings app and that’s about it.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Music-dot-app is a great example. Check out all the ways it tries to upsell you even if you just want to play local files: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrB6fP1WeQ&t=65s - opens to a full-page Apple Music subscription service ad on first run. - search functionality defaults to “Apple Music” instead of “Local Library” (or “iTunes Store”) even when the user has no active subscription. - Appl…

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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by yencabulator »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #474
yencabulator wrote: post #460

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Probably because it's not really a brand new AMD motherboard? I'd expect/hope to see whatever comes after Strix Halo in a Framework motherboard. That's when you should be looking for LPCAMM2 for AMD.

Not sure fhe Halo series will be LPCAMM compatible. The framework with the Halo chip is soldered.

I looked into it a little and it does seem like LPCAMM2 just can't provide that memory bandwidth through a single socket and dual socket would be overly complex to wire up. Bummer :-(
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