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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by cassepipe »

Trollmann wrote: post #122
tuckerman wrote: post #38

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My heart sank when they said 13 pro and then to see that so much is backwards compatible was amazing. It's quite refreshing to see a company live up to their mission so well.

Same, though the battery upgrade alone will be around $260 because of the new bottom cover, at that might just throw in the speaker upgrade as well for $19. Not sure if I even want a haptic touchpad at all.

So you if you want the newer bottom you have to upgrade the battery is what you're saying ?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by cassepipe »

pdpi wrote: post #105
unclad5968 wrote: post #48

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Isnt that the entire value proposition of the company?

Unfortunately, we live in a world where most companies pay lip service to their stated value proposition, while racing to the bottom.

Remember "Microsoft loves linux" ?

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nhumrich wrote: post #332

Personally, I don't understand aluminum chassis. Sure, it feels more premium, but it comes with quite a bit more weight than plastic, and I much prefer less weight over "feel" when it comes to a laptop.

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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by Spunkie »

sosodev wrote: post #22

TIL LPCAMM2 exists. What an awesome solution to allow memory replacements while meeting all of the other requirements for laptops.

Well to be fair they only kind of quasi-exist for consumers right now. As far as I can tell Crucial was providing the only consumer accessible lpcamm2 modules on the market right now.

Crucial is certainly the only option that comes up looking on amazon or newegg right now. Lenovo has some OEM modules but they are obviously marketed as replacement parts to just their laptops, not sure how the warranty and support for them would be outside a lenovo product.

But the Crucial brand was unceremoniously sacrificed by Micron to the AI gods at the beginning of this year. So will these lpcamm2 modules even be available once current stock runs out? The 64gb module is already sitting at $1000 on newegg.

Samsung is making lpcamm2 modules but no telling when those will actually hit the market and be accessible.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by d3Xt3r »

brson wrote: post #138

I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. The case is warped in multiple places. One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. On the plus side, my partner had one and when she threw it away she gave me he…

Hopeful that's no longer an issue with the Pro version, being made of a machined single-piece aluminum block.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by muyuu »

cogman10 wrote: post #88
luyu_wu wrote: post #81

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Keep in mind the Ultra 300 chips also only have recent support in the kernel. The battery life likely isn't great for now (as with previous gen Intels right after release). It makes sense to me that for now the benchmarks would be Windows specific.

Ubuntu 26.04 hasn't been released yet and that's likely what they'll test on. It includes kernel 7.0 which has a bunch of the panther lake support.

DHH has been posting specific support for Framework, so maybe Omarchy/Arch is one of the main options.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by cassepipe »

al_borland wrote: post #214
chis wrote: post #164

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They could have done a much more minimal version and called it a day. Being able to swap individual components of the chassis into a 5 year old model is, to me, going way above and beyond.

Doing the bare minimum isn’t how brand loyalty is built.

Sadly brand loyalty isn't as valuable as one would think in a world where price and shiny-looking features tend to dominate

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by Koffiepoeder »

jeffbee wrote: post #378
Koffiepoeder wrote: post #364

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You did not answer the question.

Did I not? I'm trying my best here. The question is sort of off-target, though. What I am trying to say is: 1) DDR uses more power than LPDDR; 2) LPDDR cannot work on a DIMM socket, because of its lower voltage signals, and other reasons; 3) SO-DIMMs always contain the higher power DDR; QED) if you insist on SO-DIMMs, then you have to spend more energy.

Rohansi was basically asking 'why', you keep on reiterating that DDR uses more power than LPDDR, but fail to answer why this is the case. Is it clock speed? Is it voltage? Is it a protocol/specification difference? 'various reasons' is not an answer.
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