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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by wao0uuno »

levkk wrote: post #114
kingsleyopara wrote: post #14

I really want to love this thing but at least in the UK, matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter) MacBook P…

On top of it, intel chips are not competitive with apple silicon. Why buy a laptop that's 30% slower and uses more energy for the same price?

To be able to run any OS you want.

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Post by Trollmann »

tuckerman wrote: post #38
chis wrote: post #28

It's so cool that every individual upgrade they did here can be hot-swapped back to the older designs. That's a huge extra lift that they didn't have to do. To be specific: There's a new lower chassis, and a new chassis top with haptic touchpad. On my older framework I could buy just the chassis top to get the new touchpad. Crazy that they could make that work. I also just really admire the CEO for doing these semi-s…

My heart sank when they said 13 pro and then to see that so much is backwards compatible was amazing. It's quite refreshing to see a company live up to their mission so well.

Same, though the battery upgrade alone will be around $260 because of the new bottom cover, at that might just throw in the speaker upgrade as well for $19. Not sure if I even want a haptic touchpad at all.

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Post by iamcalledrob »

SomeoneOnTheWeb wrote: post #68
iamcalledrob wrote: post #10

I really wish this had a 4K display option. As someone who dislikes fractional scaling. I'm clinging on to my older Thinkpad X1 because the 4K display is so good.

Doesn't it work perfectly with a 2880px-wide display with 2x scaling?

It just, just not enough real estate!

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Post by Rohansi »

dehugger wrote: post #99
luyu_wu wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iGP can access shared memory the same as with any modern system. I'm confused where you got this idea from.

There is a huge difference between on-die and off-die memory. Where that shared memory is located matters immensely.

Assuming you're referring to Apple Silicon's memory bandwidth, that is not necessarily because the memory is on-die. The bandwidth comes from having more channels to access memory. This gives the SoC a wider bus to increase throughput vs. your typical x86 system with two channels. For whatever reasons Intel/AMD decided that two channels is all the typical consumer chips can support now so it's on them.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by pdpi »

angulardragon03 wrote: post #57
altairprime wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything that isn’t a MacBook will be more expensive than a MacBook, so you should choose a price you want to spend and then evaluate if you prefer a Framework or a Mac at that price point . If your available spending power is too low for a Framework, you’re not getting a Framework — and, separately, if you want a Framework for some reason specific to the Framework and can afford one, then the price of a Mac isn’t…

> Everything that isn’t a MacBook will be more expensive than a MacBook Unrelated, but never thought I’d see this kind of sentiment

It's specifically aimed at Framework, though, not PCs in general.

Framework is very much a premium brand (where the premium experience is centred on repairability/upgradeability), and don't have the economies of scale Apple do. It's natural that they'd end up being more expensive.

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