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Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Typical Microsoft of late. Apple makes a tablet, then Microsoft makes a tablet. Apple fires some executives, then Microsoft fires some executives.

Following your line of thought SteveB should die next year.

Note to you: you're discussing real people.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Longhorn wasn't the codename for Vista - that was a lie we told to cover the truth :) Longhorn was a massively ambitious upgrade to Windows XP that had a whole new relational DB file system (WinFS), managed memory graphics stack comparable to Flash (Avalon), and abstracted network layer (Indigo). The project didn't converge. In late 2004 we cancelled the project and scrapped all the code we'd written since 2001. We f…

Fair enough, if you have inside knowledge I'm happy to be corrected. On a side note: Do you think the Wikipedia article is accurate?

The Longhorn reboot is well documented and widely known.

I think you just have to read more, for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista#Mi...

You can't expect to quote one single line out of a whole series of articles and expect to get the whole story.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Anyone else had to pause when reading that line in the letter? Julie has been a stalwart leader of building compelling “experiences” from her time on Internet Explorer

Ditto. It seems very weird to put the word "experiences" in quotes. It makes it seem as if the writer is using it sarcastically, or is in some way disclaiming what they are writing. What in the world justifies the quotes, and why wouldn't an editor get rid of them?

I think it's explicitlydrawing the reader's attention to the fact that the author is using the term in a way other than it's common meaning. To be pedantic I think the quotes are unnecessary grandstanding, if you believe in the term then just use it, but whatever.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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> Windows Longhorn was the internal codename for Vista That's a matter of perspective and spin. Vista is what was salvaged from Longhorn. The plans for Longhorn were much more ambitious. > I think that you are thinking of Windows 7 being rushed, focused, and pragmatic fix to the fiasco that was Vista. I doubt it, and it seems that cookingrobot knows what he's talking about here a lot more than you do. Windows 7 was t…

Vista is what was salvaged from Longhorn. That is very true. Re-reading cookingrobot's original comment I can know see that I misinterpreted his comment. I was thrown by the part where he wrote "don't remember Longhorn?" which made me think he was under the impression that Longhorn was a version of Windows released to consumers. it seems that cookingrobot knows what he's talking about here a lot more than you do This…

Sorry if I gave offence. We seem to be agreeing now anyway.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-the-next-ceo-of-microsof... Sinofsky was just too popular? Ballmer's CEO position is not sacrosanct. Some internal guy being a prominent public figure is the biggest risk for him i guess.

A few guys from minimsft suggested that Ballmer picked someone else for CEO and that's why Sinfosky left.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Typical Microsoft of late. Apple makes a tablet, then Microsoft makes a tablet. Apple fires some executives, then Microsoft fires some executives.

I know you're being silly.. but reality is messier than that. Apple released a tablet in 1993. Microsoft released serious tablets in 2002. Apple again in 2010, and now MS with their own branded device. Reality is less about leading a trend than hopscotching the competitor.

Slight correction and additional facts: The Newton was not a tablet. Nobody referred to it as a tablet at that time and nobody categorizes it as one now. The Psion Series 3 PDA arrived on the market before the Newton in 1991, and had a sizable user base by 1992.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Courier didn't cause J's departure and neither did Surface SteveSi's. Besides, Surface has been out for a week.

And Ballmer has already decided to say the "sales were modest". Maybe he already knew why Sinofsky will soon leave.

He did not. He said that Microsoft's approach to sale was modest. Then misquoting and English-to-French-to-English translation did their jobs.

Official statement:

>When asked about Surface, Steve’s use of the term “modest” was in relation to the company’s approach in ramping up supply and distribution of Surface with Windows RT, which has only been available via our online store and Microsoft retail and holiday stores in the U.S. and Canada. While our approach has been modest, Steve notes the reception to the device has been “fantastic” which is why he also stated that “soon, it will be available in more countries and in more stores.”

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Don't forget that Sinofsky was that guy that convinced BillG that the web/internet was the way forward rather than the closed proprietary AOL-like MSN of the time with his "Cornell is WIRED!" email/memo: http://www.cornell.edu/about/wired/

It must take a pretty bold conviction to think you are right and Bill Gates is wrong. I could trust how saying he's hard to work under would be legitimate. Could be hard for someone like that to take advice from engineers below him who have half or less the experience.

Then half of the Internet has pretty bold convictions.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Obviously the results of the Windows 8/Surface launch are being classed as another epic failure for MS. They spent billions on advertising and probably got very little in return. This is the start of the end of MS as we knew it. SS is just the one of many high profile rats jumping a sinking ship.

Re: Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

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Sinofsky, though seen as highly talented, was viewed at the top levels as not the kind of team player that the company was looking for. Dear lord. This sounds like something from Office Space. What exactly is the kind of "team player" the company is looking for?

A puppet who bends to Ballmer's whims. I wish I was joking. Every indication is that he can't handle anyone in a position of power that puts up any resistance to him.

Do you work at Microsoft?
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