How good are local LLMs at coding these days? Does anyone have any recommendations for how to get this setup? What would the minimum spend be for usable hardware? I am getting bored of having to plan my weekends around quota limit reset times...
The very best open models are maybe 3-12 months behind the frontier and are large enough that you need $10k+ of hardware to run them, and a lot more to run them performantly. ROI here is going to be deeply negative vs just using the same models via API or subscription. You can run smaller models on much more modest hardware but they aren't yet useful for anything more than trivial coding tasks. Performance also reall…
Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#452I only did the $20/month subscription since 9/2025
It was great for about 5 months, amazing in fact. I under utilized it.
For the past month, it’s basically unusable, both Claude code and just Claude chat. 1-2 prompts and I’m out. Last week I prob sent a total of 15 messages to Claude and was out of daily and weekly usage each day.
I get that the $20/month subscription isn’t a money maker for them, and they probably lose money. But the experience of using Claude has been ruined
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#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
My hypothesis is that people who have continuous sessions that keep the cache valid see the behavior you’re describing: at 95% cache hits (or thereabouts), the max plan goes a long way. But people who go > 5 minutes between prompts and see no cache, usage is eaten up quickly. Especially passing in hundreds of thousands of tokens of conversation history. I know my quote goes a lot further when I sit down and keep sess…
Why is it our job to micromanage all this when it used to work fine without? Something's clearly changed for the worse. Why are people insisting on pushing the responsibility on paying users?
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#454Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…
this seems a bit awkward vs the 5 hour session windows.
if i get rate limited once, I'll get rate limited immediately again on the same chat when the rate limit ends?
any chance we can get some form of deffered cache so anything on a rate limited account gets put aside until the rate limit ends?
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#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe words. But quality texts in even with opus not perfect. But good enough.
For short texts, the translation I usually want the most is fast translation, and local models are actually great for this. But for high-ish quality translations of substantive texts, you typically want a harness that's pretty different from Claude Code. You want a glossary of technical terms or special names, a structured summary of the wider context, a concise style guide, and you have to chop the text into chunks…
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#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why did this become an issue seemingly overnight when 1M context has been available for a while, and I assume prompt caching behavior hasn't changed? EDIT: prompt caching behavior -did- change! 1hr -> 5min on March 6th. I'm not sure how starting a fresh session fixes it, as it's just rebuilding everything. Why even make this available? It feels like the rules changed and the attitude from Anth is "aw I'm sorry you di…
> 1hr -> 5min on March 6th This is not accurate. The main agent typically uses a 1h cache (except for API customers, which can enable 1h but it is not on by default because it costs more). Sub-agents typically use a 5m cache.
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#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've seen sources like this before. It's all hearsay and promo. I was asking for any publicly available verifiable information regarding the cost of inference at scale. I haven't seen any such info personally which is why I asked. I'm dying to see S-1 filing for Anthropic or OpenAI. I don't actually think inference is as cheap as people say if you consider the total cost (hardware, energy, capex, etc)
Well they're not public yet so you'll have to put up with rumors. But the numbers are available for companies like DeepSeek say they have an 80% profit margin, so it stands to reason OAI etc would do similar numbers considering they charge much more.
1. the 80% margin from 2025 was theoretical,
2. they're relying on distillation/synthetic data for training,
3. and have been very opaque about cross-subsidization of R&D with their models.
The distillation alone adds a big asterisk for comparisons.
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Sure, I really appreciate you looking at this. a6edd0d1-a9ed-4545-b237-cff00f5be090 / https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/47027 I'm happy to provide any other info that can be useful (as long as i'm not sharing any information about the code or tools we use into a public github issue).
Thanks for the report! This was fixed in v2.1.92. Please: 1. Upgrade to the latest: claude update (seems like you did this already) 2. Start a new conversations (resuming an old convo may trigger this bug again in that convo)
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#459Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…
Hey Boris - why is the best way to get support making a Hacker News or X post, and hoping you reply? Why does Anthropic Enterprise Support never respond to inquiries?
Given I'm running two max accounts to get the usage I want, can we get a 25x and 40x tier? :-)
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you all of a sudden running into so many issues like this? Could it be that all of the Anthropics employees have completely unlimited and unbounded accounts, which means you don't get a feeling of how changes will affect the customers?
Because it’s completely vibe coded? And the codebase goes through massive churn, which means things that were stable get rewritten possibly with bugs.