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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by bcherny »

throwaway2027 wrote: post #235
bcherny wrote: post #210

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

I don't want a nudge. I want a clear RED WARNING with "You've gone away from your computer a bit too long and chatted too much at the coffee machine. You're better off starting a new context!"

Ack, it is currently blue but we can make it red

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by bcherny »

rawicki wrote: post #247
bcherny wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's accurate. The malware prompt has been around since Sonnet 3.7. We carefully evaled it for each new model release and found no regression to intelligence, alongside improved scores for cyber risk. That said, we have removed the prompt for Opus 4.6 since it no longer needed it.

I started seeing "not a malware, continuing" in almost every reply since around 2 weeks ago. Maybe you just reintroduced it with some regression? Opus 4.6

That's weird. Would you mind running /feedback and sharing the id here next time you see this? I'd love to debug

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by mlinsey »

losteric wrote: post #218
denysvitali wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI (Codex) keeps on resetting the usage limits each time they fuck up... I have yet to see Anthropic doing the same. Sorry but this whole thing seems to be quite on purpose.

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Different users do seem to be encountering problems or not based on their behavior, but for a rapidly-evolving tool with new and unclear footguns, I wouldn't characterize that as user error.

For example, I don't pull in tons of third-party skills, preferring to have a small list of ones I write and update myself, but it's not at all obvious to me that pulling in a big list of third-party skills (like I know a lot of people do with superpowers, gstack, etc...) would cause quota or cache miss issues, and if that's causing problems, I'd call that more of a UX footgun than user error. Same with the 1M context window being a heavily-touted feature that's apparently not something you want to actually take advantage of...

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

comandillos wrote: post #66
sdevonoes wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why scared? Like, if theit software gets bad, we stop using it.

Maybe scared wasn't the best word... but we cannot deny Opus is a great - if not greatest - model at coding and Anthropic is the only one serving it a reasonable prices when going through their subscription model.

I mean this is blatantly false. Codex just rolled out a $100 a month plan with higher usage and lower quotas than Claude and GPT 5.4 is more capable than Opus 4.6. At least for the systems work I do.

And if you can't stomach OpenAI, GLM 5.1 is actually quite competent. About Opus 4.5 / GPT 5.2 quality.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by maerF0x0 »

gruez wrote: post #169
hirako2000 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is that was the plan all along. Once people won't be able to think anymore and business expect the level of productivity witnessed before, will have no choice but cough up whatever providers bill us.

>and business expect the level of productivity witnessed before, will have no choice but cough up whatever providers bill us. Is that bad? After all, even if they hiked to price infinity, you wouldn't worse off than if AI didn't exist because you could still code by hand. Moreover if it's really in a "business" (employment?) context, the tools should be provided by your employer, not least for compliance/security rea…

The insidious part is the thought that if you spend your limited learning and recall on AI Tools, then you wont be able to "still code by hand" because you'll have lost the skill, then there will be a local minima to cross to get back to human level productivity. Of course you'll get PIPed before you get back to full capacity.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by bcherny »

docheinestages wrote: post #256
bcherny wrote: post #210

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Why are you all of a sudden running into so many issues like this? Could it be that all of the Anthropics employees have completely unlimited and unbounded accounts, which means you don't get a feeling of how changes will affect the customers?

The number of people using Claude Code has grown very quickly, which means:

- More configurations and environments we need to test

- Given an edge/corner case, it is more likely a significant number of users run into it

- As the ecosystem has grown, more people use skills and plugins, and we need to offer better tools and automation to ensure these are efficient

We do actually dogfood rate limits, so I think it's some combination of the above.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by dr_dshiv »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #209
dr_dshiv wrote: post #148

"Hey Claude, can you help me create a strategy to optimize my token use so I don't run into limits so often?" --> worked for me! I had two $200 plans before and now I am cool despite all day use

How and when do you apply the strategy?

I've only had to do a major token optimization once. It reduced my memory, claude.md, mcps, etc... that's usually the big issue. but of course it gets dumber without the context of the tools but smarter with the cleaner window. so you have to find your balance.

But like most challenges with claude, if you can just express them clearly, there are usually ways of optimizing further

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by WarmWash »

I did my (out of the ordinary) taxes this year using agents, kind of as an experiment and kind of to save ~$750. Opus 4.6 max in CC, 5.4 xhigh in codex, and 3.1 high in antigravity. All on the $20/mo plans.

I have a day job, a side business, actively trade shares options and futures, and have a few energy credit items.

All were given the same copied folder containing all the needed documents to compose the return, and all were given the same prompt. My goal was that if all three agreed, I could then go through it pretty confidently and fill out the actual submission forms myself.

5.4 nailed it on the first shot. Took about 12 minutes.

3.1 missed one value, because it decided to only load the first 5 pages of a 30 page document. Surprisingly it only took about 2 minutes to complete though. A second prompt and ~10 seconds corrected it. GPT and Gemini now were perfectly aligned with outputs.

4.6 hit my usage limit before finishing after running for ~10 minutes. I returned the next day to have it finish. It ran for another 5 minutes or so before finishing. There were multiple errors and the final tax burden was a few thousand off. On a second prompt asking to check for errors in the problem areas, it was able to output matching values after a couple more minutes.

For my first time using CC and 4.6 (outside of some programming in AG), I am pretty underwhelmed given the incessant hype.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by avree »

bcherny wrote: post #210

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Hey Boris - why is the best way to get support making a Hacker News or X post, and hoping you reply? Why does Anthropic Enterprise Support never respond to inquiries?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by hk__2 »

stavros wrote: post #120
chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

Codex has been better for me, but it's WAY too nitpicky/defensive. It always wants to make changes that add complexity and code to solve a problem that's impossible to happen (e.g. a multiprocess race condition on a daemon I only ever run one instance of).

Same here; that’s very annoying because it adds a lot of entropy to the code, and people don’t always take the time to clean things up.
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