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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

By the way, what are you using it for? I bought Max and Pro plans for Claue and Codex, developed a few apps with it, and after the initial excitation ("Wow I can get results 10x faster!") I felt the net sum is negative for me. In the end I didn't learn much except the current quirks of each model/tool, I didn't enjoy the whole process and the end result was not good enough for my standards. In the end I deleted all these projects and unsubscribed.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by Chaosvex »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #125

I skimmed the issue. No wonder Anthropic closes these tickets out without much action. That’s just a wall of AI garbage. Here’s what I’ve done to mostly fix my usage issues: * Turn on max thinking on every session. It save tokens overall because I’m not correcting it of having it waste energy on dead paths. * keep active sessions active. It seems like caches are expiring after ~5 minutes (especially during peak usage…

I love how some comments tell you to turn max thinking on and others tell you to turn thinking off entirely. Apparently, they both save tokens!

Vibes, indeed.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

cmaster11 wrote: post #25
postalcoder wrote: post #14

I had used Claude Code max as my daily driver last year and this sort of drama was par for the course. It's why I migrated entirely to Codex, despite liking Claude, the harness, more. There's this honeymoon period with Claude you experience for a month or two followed by a trough of disillusionment, and then a rebound after a model update (rinse and repeat). It doesn't help that Anthropic is experiencing a vicious co…

I've been using Code for half a year, these past couple weeks have been a totally different experience I'm on max 20, and seeing my weekly quota going bust in ~3 days is a bit absurd when nothing has significantly changed in the way I work

Same exact experience. I never expected to depleted a weekly quota when not working every day of the week.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by danbots »

Codex can feel standoffish at times. I can tell very quickly we wont become friends. The personality feels like an employee in another department that while gifted- is merely lending you a slice of their clearly precious time. I get the impression from codex that **gives me the feeling that I am wasting it’s time. That it will help me but deep down- it dos not want to, it does not care if we succeed toether. What I am saying, frinds, is that when I use codex and iterate, I get the impression that Codex does not like me, that deep down it truly does not want to help me, that it has better things to do.

On the flip side- Using Opus with a baby billy freeman persona has never been more entertaining.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by pawelduda »

50 days ago I wrote this [1] as the world seemed high on AI and it gave me crypto bubble vibe.

Since then, I've been seeing increased critique of Anthropic in particular (several front page posts on HN, especially past few days), either due to it being nerfed or just straight up eating up usage quota (which matches my personal experience). It appears that we're once again getting hit by enshittiffication of sorts.

Nowadays I rely a lot on LLMs on a daily basis for architecture and writing code, but I'm so glad that majority of my experience came from pre-AI era.

If you use these tools, make sure you don't let it atrophy your software engineering "muscles". I'm positive that in long run LLMs are here to stay. The jump in what you can now self-host, or run on consumer hardware is huge, year after year. But if your abilities rely on one vendor, what happens if you come to work one day and find out you're locked out of your swiss army knife and you can no longer outsource thinking?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47066701

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by comboy »

stavros wrote: post #120
chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

Codex has been better for me, but it's WAY too nitpicky/defensive. It always wants to make changes that add complexity and code to solve a problem that's impossible to happen (e.g. a multiprocess race condition on a daemon I only ever run one instance of).

You just convinced me to try it. Claude just copy pastes, does search and replace, zero abstractions and I'm the one that needs to think about the edge cases.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by emptysongglass »

nickstinemates wrote: post #181

It feels so weird to me - people are exhausting their quotas while I am trying very hard to even reach mine with the $200 plan. We're generating all of the code for swamp[1] with AI. We review all of that generated code with AI (this is done with the anthropic API.) Every part of our SDLC is pure AI + compute. Many feature requests every day. Bug fixes, etc. Never hit the quota once. Something weird is definitely goi…

Man what the hell happened to System Initiative. It was a super weird pivot from sociotechnical proclamations to a tool I honestly have no idea what it does for me? Is it n8n for agents? Is it needed when I have a bunch of skills that approximate whatever swamp is trying to do? Who knows!

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

danbots wrote: post #199

Codex can feel standoffish at times. I can tell very quickly we wont become friends. The personality feels like an employee in another department that while gifted- is merely lending you a slice of their clearly precious time. I get the impression from codex that *gives me the feeling that I am wasting it’s time. That it will help me but deep down- it dos not want to, it does not care if we succeed toether. What I am…

I don't care about "personality" I want quality.

Honestly when I get codex to review the work that Claude does (my own or my coworker's) it consistently finds terrible terrible bugs, usually missing error handling / negative conditions, or full on race conditions in critical paths.

I don't trust code written by Claude in a production environment.

All AI code needs review by human, and often by other AIs, but Opus 4.6 is the worst. It's way too "yeet"

The opus models are for building prototypes, not production software.

GPT 5.4 in codex is also way more efficient with tokens or budget. I can get a lot more done with it.

I don't like giving money to sama, but I hate bugs even more.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #148

"Hey Claude, can you help me create a strategy to optimize my token use so I don't run into limits so often?" --> worked for me! I had two $200 plans before and now I am cool despite all day use

How and when do you apply the strategy?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by bcherny »

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here.

We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are:

1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few UX improvements (eg. to nudge you to /clear before continuing a long stale session), and are investigating defaulting to 400k context instead, with an option to configure your context window to up to 1M if preferred. To experiment with this now, try: CLAUDE_CODE_AUTO_COMPACT_WINDOW=400000 claude.

2. People pulling in a large number of skills, or running many agents or background automations, which sometimes happens when using a large number of plugins. This was the case for a surprisingly large number of users, and we are actively working on (a) improving the UX to make these cases more visible to users and (b) more intelligently truncating, pruning, and scheduling non-main tasks to avoid surprise token usage.

In the process, we ruled out a large number of hypotheses: adaptive thinking, other kinds of harness regressions, model and inference regressions.

We are continuing to investigate and prioritize this. The most actionable thing for people running into this is to run /feedback, and optionally post the feedback ids either here or in the Github issue. That makes it possible for us to debug specific reports.

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