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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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> Anthropic CAN change their limits and rates as they see fit, there’s never been hard promises or SLOs on these plans. No they can't. When I buy an annual subscription and prepay for the year, they can't just go "ok now you get one token a month" a day in. I bought the plan as I bought it. They can't change anything until the next renewal.

It's the nature of SaaS software, right? It doesn't need to be an enforced "hard change", but, let's say that they trained Opus 4.6 to be more "verbose" or to explore more files to gain more context for it's own tasks.

If your limits stay "the same", but you then use Opus 4.6, your quota will be exhausted much faster, it's just how it works.

Note that some features are simply NOT made for these Pro, Max, Max 5x or whatever pre-paid plans. I'm pretty sure this is by design and not an accident or a bug: If you have 6/7 MCP servers configured or if you want to use this new feature of "Agent Teams", you will exhaust your entire quota before ANY work is even done. This is not a bug. Each agent has its own context window and tools and they all count separately.

MCP servers, when active, add A LOT of context to your sessions before you even use them, etc, etc.

It feels to me that people want to have their cake and eat it too, but, that would NOT be a sustainable business model. You can not complain about the tools if you can't understand them in-depth.

I want to state that I don't think Anthropic are fully aware of the ramifications that ANY small change in ANY of their models might have, because their entire ecosystem is a bit messy atm, but, I'm certain they're aware that if people dont like it, they will cancel the subscription and flock to a competitor very quickly, since there's no real moat anymore. So, it's in their own interest to keep things minimally usable even on the "cheaper plans".

I have seen people with 5-10 "active MCP servers" that they "wanted to try out" then they forget about it and wonder why their context is always full... Cmon... that's almost bad faith.

I don't fully defend Anthropic as they've had several issues with degraded model quality after releasing "the latest model", and CLI usability that cost me real money and real tokens, so, there's a lot of room for improvement, but, to claim that quota gets exhausted after 1h it points out to either some forgotten MCP servers, skills or giant files being accidentally read in, or some sort of mis-use which these limits were put in place to prevent exactly.

There's a very thin line between: quota is exhuasted on a regular, normal session after 1h and I think there's a bug versus I had 3-4 MCP servers active that I am not using at all but forgot to disable and my CLAUDE.md file is 1000 lines...

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I find copilot to be much more straightforward, and I can track per request against my credits. Here is the explanation of what a request is: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/concepts/billing/copilot-...

> A request is any interaction where you ask Copilot to do something for you—whether it's generating code, answering a question, or helping you through an extension. Each time you send a prompt in a chat window or trigger a response from Copilot, you're making a request. For agentic features, only the prompts you send count as premium requests; actions Copilot takes autonomously to complete your task, such as tool ca…

Do you have any evidence to support your claims? I keep a pretty close eye on my usage and have never seen it deviate from "1x/3x requests per time I hit enter". Is there a reproducible scenario I can try that will charge multiple requests for a single prompt?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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"enshittification" gets thrown around a lot, but this is the exact playbook. Look at the previous bubble's cash cow: advertising. Online advertising is now ubiquitous, terrible, and mandatory for anyone who wants to do e-commerce. You can't run a mass-market online business without buying Adwords, Instagram Ads, etc. AI will be ubiquitous, and then it will get worse and more expensive. But we will be unable to return…

But why would they make the product shittier and not just more expensive? A lot of the complaints have been the model getting lost and going rogue.

Because sometimes you can make more money by reducing costs and making something shittier (especially if you do it covertly), compared to increasing prices.

I suspect more customers are lost a lot faster when you increase prices, compared to enshittifying the product. It's also a lot more directly attributable to an action, and thus easier for an executive to be blamed if they choose the former over the latter.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Boris, you're seeing a ton of anecdotes here and Claude has done something that has affected a bunch of their most fervent users. Jeff Bezos famously said that if the anecdotes are contradicting the metrics, then the metrics are measuring the wrong things. I suggest you take the anecdotes here seriously and figure out where/why the metrics are wrong.

On the subject of metrics, better user-facing metrics to understand and debug usage patterns would be a great addition. I'd love an easier way to understand the ave cost incurred by a specific skill, for example. (If I'm missing something obvious, let me know.)

Baking deeper analytics into CC would be helpful... similar to ccusage perhaps: https://github.com/ryoppippi/ccusage

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Dude is on hacker news on a Sunday. half the GDP of the world is competing with him. What metrics would you like to see?

An enforceable SLA with the services that Anthropic offers rather than putting an employee to respond to things on Sunday.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

How can we turn of 1m context? I don't find it has ever helped.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I started seeing "not a malware, continuing" in almost every reply since around 2 weeks ago. Maybe you just reintroduced it with some regression? Opus 4.6

That's weird. Would you mind running /feedback and sharing the id here next time you see this? I'd love to debug

Sure, I really appreciate you looking at this.

a6edd0d1-a9ed-4545-b237-cff00f5be090 / https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/47027

I'm happy to provide any other info that can be useful (as long as i'm not sharing any information about the code or tools we use into a public github issue).

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